Divine Light Volume 1 No. 10
We often talk in terms of darkness and light, meaning respectively ignorance and understanding. We say "Don't ask me, I'm in the dark about it." And as our understanding about something increases, we say, "I'm beginning to see the light." This is a metaphorical use of these words, and it stems from an intuitive feeling which we take for granted that light symbolises understanding and darkness symbolises ignorance.
But in the scriptures, we see that Light is talked about in a more definite and realistic way. We see that in every scripture, without exception, God is defined as Light. To have a direct experience of God is considered the highest enlightenment. The people who write the scriptures are aware that all men use the idea of light metaphorically to describe lesser states of enlightenment which come from the acquisition of worldly understanding in particular subjects, so they take great pains to draw attention in their writings to the fact that they are speaking of a real Light that far surpasses the lesser states of enlightenment. The emphasis is on the actual existence of this Light, man's capacity to visualise it, and its self-dependant quality, which means it is infinite in all dimensions.
Hence, in the Koran, it is written, "The Light of Allah is above all lights." In the Upanishads it is written, "God is the Light of all lights." In the Bhagavad Gita it says, "The Light of God shines forever in His supreme abode", whilst in the Bible we can read that "God is Light. His Light surpasseth all other lights and shineth forever."
So when talking of the Divinity, the phrase 'to see the Light' does not only mean that one acquires an understanding. It means one actually sees, one visualises optically, a Light which is not at all to be found in the physical world but which, at the same time, is brighter, more beautiful, and more real than any physical light. In the scriptures, the descriptions of it are so intense and detailed that they can only have emanated from a direct experience, from an actual visualisation of an actual Light. Jesus compares the Light to a shining white stone, a precious pearl, a host of candles in a secret shrine. David compares it to sparkling necklaces and brilliant jewels. Krishna said it is like the rising of a thousand suns. The Buddha and Mohammed both saw it as a luminous crescent surrounded by stars. This is why the flag of Islam is a crescent with stars, and why the crescent is the symbol of the Islamic faith. Lao Tzu said it was a golden temple in a deep blue sky, whilst Brahmanand likens it to a jewelled palace constantly jingling and jangling. All these great realised souls had achieved enlightenment for themselves and exhorted people to do likewise if they wished to enter God's Kingdom.
So the question is, how to achieve this experience, how to be bestowed with the Inner Eye, the Third Eye of the Hindu scriptures, the Single Eye of the Gospels? It is easy to close the outer eyes, but then to receive the Divine Vision is not easy. Some people make this mistake. They think that by knowing how to gather one's attention from the outside world and how to close off their outer senses, they will then automatically be granted the Sacred Knowledge of God, the vision of His Light. But this does not happen. The techniques of how to prepare oneself by gathering the
senses are freely disseminated and are written in many scriptures, not the least in the Gospels for those who can understand, but enlightenment is not achieved thereby, no more than by sitting in the car and closing the door can one reach one's destination. If one wants to drive, it is essential to sit in the car, but by doing this alone one cannot progress by a single inch.
It is to provide the missing ingredient that the Lord incarnates forth from time to time in human body. For without obedience for and surrender to Him, one can never receive the Holy Knowledge, the Divine Vision of God. How is this so? It is simple and logical. We can only receive God as much as we open ourselves up to Him. So to know Him we must love Him. Yet we cannot love an imaginary concept of God. We can only love what we have had experience of. We cannot love what we do not know. So to love Him we must know Him. It seems insoluble, and this is why the Lord incarnates Himself. It is impossible to love God without coming into contact with God Himself in human body. Upon seeing Him, the pure will recognize Him and call Him Lord. When He is in body, everybody has this Divine opportunity to behold Him, and if they wish, to recognize Him. He gives everyone the chance to love Him, for by loving Him His grace is received. With His grace love fills the heart, and Light fills the Eye. God is seen externally and internally, and the result is supreme bliss and God-intoxication.
Now Is the Time to Wake Up
Satsang of the Holy Mother, Toronto, Canada, 2nd May, 1972 Translated by Mahatma Rajeswaranand Ji
My dear children,
All the people of all the religions pray to God according to their own faith. They are saying that I am praying to God in my own way and God is pleased with me. But they are not understanding that if God can be realized through their own faith, in their own way, then what was the necessity for the Lord to come from time to time? You should be very much sure that you cannot find that path to God through your own particular religion, in your own particular way. To feel that you can is like the persistent child, very adamant that they will write in their own way. But then the mother and father understand that this is not the correct way. 'A' must be written like
this, 'B' like this, 'C' like this, and so on, and in their own way they mould the boy. The boy is adamant but the mother does not let him do as he wishes. She trains him in her way.
Similarly all the great Lords, our own Father, incarnate in this Universe to mould us in His own way. He comes here to give us something, to elevate our lives, because we are His children.
At the Vaisaiki festival this year a million people were there hearing sat-sang, and very many of them received Knowledge. When Guru Maharaj Ji reached that function all the people were weeping with joy and love. Yet for all these people, in this world
there are billions of people who simply live and die, who simply come and go, who live their existence for nothing, who never know how to cry for the love of God. To cry like this you have to be completely like a baby, surrendering yourself at the Lord's Lotus Feet. Then the Lord accepts those devotees who cry for Him. He keeps them in His heart. He gives them everything.
This building will disappear one day. The universe, too, has come and some day will go. But what remains forever is God, and Knowledge of God you can never have in your own way. For that you should cry at the Lotus Feet of the Lord, and then He will give you your heart's desire. No one
can know what it is that Guru Maharaj Ji gives to His children. Only Guru Maharaj Ji knows, and only the devotee can understand.
In this universe what is the reason why men fight with each other? It is because there are differences in their thought. Men's thoughts collide. Some men think this way, some men think that way, and there lies the difference, and where lies the difference, there lies the struggle. There lies the war and there lies the trouble. And when the thoughts of two people are mixed together in harmony, there lies the peace. And all people were crying because the Lord had come to unite all their strands of thoughts into one thread, for them all to meet in that one thread of peace and happiness.
There are so many gurus in this world, but these are only so-called gurus. They think that they have got Knowledge but they have got no Knowledge, they have no peace. For the present time, the present Master is Shri Guru Maharaj Ji, and He has come to bring peace and happiness to the whole universe.
In India there was a guru of hatha yoga with thousands of disciples, but when he received Knowledge at the Lotus Feet of Guru Maharaj Ji, his eyes began to shed tears. And he prostrated before those Lotus Feet and said, "Oh my Lord, I have spent my life for nothing. I look towards you and my heart tells me you have come. I am your devotee. My soul is crying. All my disciples I surrender to you."
Without this Knowledge, souls fall into the ditch of ignorance, but now you have the opportunity to show this universe that the path of liberation is open. So be firm in your meditation and dedicate your life. Many mahatmas will be coming from India. Shri Bal Bhagwan Ji will also be coming very soon. Millions of Indian devotees did not wish me to come to the West but I told them not to worry, for now the time has come to save the whole universe, and it is now that the souls of the western countries are crying to meet the Lord. And now is the time.
There is a devotional song which says that he who surrenders his existence completely and absolutely at the Lotus Feet of the Lord, he compels the Lord to work in his favour, to take him into His heart. It is because this devotee calls so helplessly for the Lord to come onto this earth that Guru Maharaj Ji is compelled to incarnate. At the same moment the tears come into the devotee's eyes, the tears must come into Guru Maharaj Ji's eyes. These devotees are the wise ones, for they compel the Lord to weep for them. All the troubles and calamities which fall upon those disciples, they accept them as boons from the Lotus Feet of Guru Maharaj Ji. "This is the food of my soul", they say and they accept all miseries and calamities like flowers. They wear them on their heads like the gift of the Lord.
So travellers in this world, do not sleep in slumber! Now is the time to wake up. There is no certainty in this life. The brakes may fail any time. This body is just like a cage, it can break so easily. But the souls of those bodies which do great work are never worried, are never troubled. Many great souls in the past came into this inn of human body, stayed for some time, did marvellous great works, and then left the inn. Many were crucified, many sustained great difficulties and troubles, but wise people do not grieve for them because this body has to be left.
So do not drive your car so hastily. Sleep and become refreshed first. Your safety is in your own hands and always meditate on the Word which all the great saints did in their time. Now the Lord of Lords has come to give you the Knowledge, and patiently you should remember the Name. Utilize your body for the best purpose. Whether it remains or not, do not worry. Use it while you have it for the best possible purpose. Grieve for those people who did not worship Guru Maharaj Ji but never grieve for the disciples of Guru Maharaj J for they are always at His Lotus Feet, they are always in the safest place. Therefore be very attentive to your meditation. Be very alert in your service and peacefully fulfil your duty in this universe.
My blessings to you all.
The Director of the Soul
Satsang of Shri Guru Maharaj Ji, Lebanese Hall, South Africa, 29th April, 1972
I won't take very much of your time. I just want to say something about God, and this Divine Knowledge. Nothing very new and nothing very special, but indeed it is special for those people who have realized it.
If a man sees a movie once, the next time he sees it he won't like it so much. If you tell him a story, the next time you tell him the same story he won't enjoy it so much. But this Knowledge is one of its kind. The first day he has it he enjoys it. The second day he enjoys it even more. The third day even more, and the fourth day even more because this Knowledge is like a mine that never ends. All these mines in South Africa have an end to them but this mine of Knowledge has no end to it. It is a very special mine, and people who go there, by the permission of the Satguru, and who take the spade of love, will come away with bags of devotion. Whoever digs there he fills them up. Whoever digs in that mine finds something. Sometimes we strike a blank, we can't seem to get anything, and we start complaining, but that means we haven't got our bags with us, our devotional bags. If we haven't got our devotional bags we won't find anything to put in them.
And this spade is very special too because this is the spade of love. You can't find these spades anywhere, You can't get the bags anywhere either, but if you go to this man, this Master of the mine, who gives you permission to enter the mine to get some gold or diamonds, and ask Him, He will provide you with both the bag and the spade. You have got to find the right man of course, and you do this by realizing him. Not by intellect, you cannot realize who it is by the intellect. Yet people want to realize this man, this Guru, this Master, this Divine Soul, with their intellects. It cannot be done, because intellect is limited, it is imperfect. This intellect can realize, can understand, can identify, can verify, can create, can imagine only limited things, only finite things. I can use my intellect to build a house, but the next day I will want to build something bigger. And perfection is not like that. Once you have reached perfection there is no increase or decrease, there is no feeling of this is not good and this is good. So many people around the world are overburdened with their intellect and they wish they were rid of it. I have seen so many intellectual people, and all intellect depends on the body because it can only work through the body, human intellect that is. You might have a great intellect and know how many things have to be done but if you have no hands, no Begs or no mouth you can't
do anything with your intellect. You can't speak an idea, you can't draw a diagram. Body is limited, so intellect is limited.
That's why all saints have said, and Jesus Himself has said, that you cannot find God through the intellect, and this is something intellectual people have failed to realize.
Actually there is no difference between the man at the door of the mine and the Director of the Soul. The man at the door has got two eyes, a nose, and ears, in the same basic mould as other people. His nose is not on top of His head or on. His chin and His eyes aren't low down in His cheeks. He looks pretty much the same as anybody else. But that is just His body that you are talking about and He is more than His body.
When Jesus came to earth and
people saw Him, He said, "I am the Son of God," but others denied this and wanted Him crucified. And they crucified Him because they did not get into the depths of this Knowledge. They just saw His body, and judged Him from that. And Jesus said, "If you kill my body alright. You can kill my body but I won't be dead." The graveyard got no sympathy from Him. So intellect is limited, it is confined to the body, it cannot understand what is not physical. But this Divine and Supreme Knowledge, though it lives inside the body, can never be reached by any intellectual or bodily method. To realize God we need a completely different world and that is a spiritual world.
Many people think the spiritual world is concerned with dead things, but that is not at all true. What we mean by the spiritual world is being in that spirit which never dies and which never, never makes people suffer. You will never find it in a haunted house. No, in the spiritual world we mean it's really peaceful! And we can enter into it but not with our intellect. Our intellect cannot lead us to the calm and peace which lives in this body.
Now we are living in an Age of. Darkness and we've got to try and understand more. It is difficult for us to believe that there might be such a thing as the Knowledge we describe. Alright, it is difficult! If I tell you that I can give you the same Knowledge that Jesus the Christ gave in His time, Lord Krishna gave in His time, Mohammed gave in His time, and that this is not my Knowledge, it is Supreme Knowledge of God which is within you, and I can reveal it, you might just laugh and maybe say, "It can't be possible. He must be kidding." Many people do say that. But how do you think scientists made the V-8 engine? A man went to an engineer and demanded this kind of engine. And the scientist said it was impossible. But the man said, "I don't want anything else. I just want this engine." So they said, "O.K. we'll try." So they tried their best and they got it. They got the V-8 engine, powerful and strong. How did people reach the moon? How could they react against gravitation? How could man react to the gravity of the moon where he is just weightless and nothing is there? They researched, they worked for it, they made discoveries and the next moment they were on the moon. How is it possible? Just throw anything into the air. Throw a little piece of plastic, that's much lighter than a Jumbo Jet, yet you can throw it in the sky and it will most certainly come down. So how is it possible that this huge object can fly in the sky?
You know, in India there are many people in villages who have never seen a train in their lives, never seen a car, never seen an aeroplane. Call these people up and tell them that this plane, this 747, a big huge iron thing, is going to fly in the air with 365 people and all their luggage and they will say it cannot be possible, iron cannot fly. Alright it is impossible. But when they actually see it then they have to believe it. A little piece of iron is much lighter than a huge ship and if you put it on the water it will sink. So it is impossible to believe that a huge massive iron thing can float on water like a bird. But when you see it practically you know it is true. This Knowledge, such old Knowledge, the same which Jesus gave, and Buddha, and Krishna, and Rama, it is impossible to get the same Knowledge now, isn't it? Right? O.K, it is impossible, but try and you will get it. It doesn't come out of a suitcase. Jesus and Buddha and Krishna and Rama never travelled with a suitcase where they kept the Knowledge like medicine and took it out and gave people a drink and the people would say, "Yes, I have realized." It is not like this. The Knowledge they revealed was within them and they realized it. We are also alive. We have living human bodies as they did and so we can realize God in the same way, in the same original way that they also taught, provided we have what is necessary to get this Knowledge. And if someone, someone knowing the same thing that those Saints knew, a
man knowing the same path, if He comes to earth and shows us this path, then you too can know it. Of course you can! See!
You should only know the principle. How do all these hugh aeroplanes fly? Have you seen these small, small aeroplanes that fly by radio control? They work in the same way as larger real aeroplanes, with the same principle. They turn, they go up and down, they can land, they can fly upsidedown – everything. It has got wings which support it in the air, it has got flaps to take it up, it has got flaps to take it down. It has got a tail and it has got a flap on its tail. It will turn and it will fly. That's the principle of the thing. If you understand how this flies, then you understand how the big one flies.
So that's it. Know the principle, know the plan, know the blueprint and you can work from there, you can understand anything from there. If we have got a plan with exact measurements and an exact scale, then you can build the whole thing with every detail correct.
People who look for peace get it. People who sit in their houses don't get it. Knowledge isn't like a programme that is going to appear on television. Knowledge isn't like a letter that the postman will deliver to you in your home. You can't get it by relaxing and doing nothing. But this is the Age of Darkness and there will be a complete change. In this age water will come to the thirsty man, instead of the thirsty man going to the water. Alright? But the man must be thirsty. The water is there waiting for you to drink it. We can now get this Knowledge quicker than ever before. Before it used to take a long time. We had to be apprenticed to that teacher and serve Him for years and then only if He is pleased with you will He give you Knowledge, otherwise He'll send you back home.
But in this Kaliyuga, in this Age of Darkness, you must just ask humbly. Ask with a guileless heart and the next moment He will reveal to you that reality which has been unrevealed since your childhood, and that's the reality of the whole world and on that the whole world exists. This is the Word on which the whole world exists. All the saints have been giving the same Knowledge of this same Word, and I can prove it to you. Jesus said of the Word, "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God." Lord Rama said of the Word, "I cannot describe the glory of the Word. This Word makes stone into living people." And now our condition is like a stone. We are stones. Many things come into our minds. We have many dreams, but we are like a stone in water. A stone can be in water for many years, ten, twenty, a hundred, four hundred years, but take it out and put it in the sun and in five minutes it is dry. No water is left, nobody knew it was ever in the water. So we are like this. Many changes come into our life but really we are the same old rock and this Guru, this man, has got a fire of light, has got the Divine Light which has got so much heat that it not only dries the stone but it changes it from stone into powder, a powder which can be moulded in any way you like, so its whole shape can be changed. This is the privilege of the Guru. After drying us out He moulds us into the perfect shape. We stop being imperfect and start being perfect, and that's what we need. We need to be perfect. We need to realize the Perfect Soul and to be one with it, to attain union with it. This is our great opportunity and if you are interested, you should try for this Knowledge. Many of you will say, "No, He's telling lies, He's kidding." But why should I kid anyone? I am not asking for any money from you. People who kid ask for money. So why should I kid you? This Knowledge is free of charge. I am going to show you the Light free of charge just so that you may know it and relize what is real.
You and darkness are not one.
You and darkness are separate things. The origin of man is Light. Man has arrived from Light, he has not arrived from darkness. Maybe darkness has conquered man but man's real nature is Light. Darkness really is nothing. It is the absence of Light, it is ignorance and what is ignorance? Ignorance is the absence of Knowledge. And what is absence? Absence is the opposite of presence. When a thing is there it is present. When it is not there it is absent. So actually absence is nothing. Do you see? And darkness also is nothing. And what is Light? Light is a glow and rays come from it and reflect and when these rays reflect on the eyes, then you can see. So the Light lets us see reflections. But nobody has actually revealed to us the Light. I am not particularly blaming you because you don't know the Light. That's alright. But I do say that I am at your service and I want to show you this Light. So can 1 please have the opportunity to serve you? Any time you want to receive this Knowledge, please contact us. We are ready to give it to you, provided you are ready to receive it. And if you are not ready, we will make you ready. That's the work that I can do.
If your car's alright I'll let it drive straight away. If your car is not alright, then I'll check it and make it alright. The mechanic's not there just to say what's wrong with the car. He is there to fix it. And that's my job. I'll make it alright. Usually it is just the mixture in the carburettor that is wrong, the mixture of air and petrol. If that is wrong then the car doesn't go well. And the world is like a car. All the countries are suffering. Some, like India, are suffering because they have got a very long spiritual foot but a very tiny materialistic foot, so when India tries to walk she staggers and gets stuck. But some other countries have a very long materialistic foot and a very tiny spiritual foot. They also can't walk, the mixture is wrong. Sometimes the car will start, you put it in gear, accelerate and fortunately it starts going. But then it reaches a steep hill and it has to stop. And then you've got to call the mechanic. But some people they sleep in the car and think that's the mechanic's problem, he'll come and fix it. But he comes along in his car and is very busy because many cars on the hill are waiting for him. So when he comes up to your car he'll think nobody is in it. He'll think, "Nobody is worried about this car," and he'll go on to the next one.
But really we need to get our mixture right, the mixture must be perfect. Then no matter what happens, the car is completely reliable. Steep hill, no matter. So who is the engineer who is going to adjust our mixture? There is only one mechanic because there is only one company manufacturing this type of car and this company has only one representative. This company is poor because it supplies everything free, so it can only have one representative. And He is the owner of the company. He makes us and if we think that our mixture is wrong we can call Him and He will come. When everything is dim He will come with His Light.
This is all I wanted to tell you. It is just an introduction I am giving you. If you are interested you are most welcome to come, but if you are not interested, you are most dis-welcome, alright? So it is up to you how you feel about it. But what I am telling you is something very far out. I have distributed this Knowledge to thousands and thousands of Christians, to thousands of Hindus, to thousands of Buddhists. This Knowledge is such a thing that I can be a Christian and still follow it, I can be a Hindu and still follow it. It is not a separate following, it is not a separate sect. Divine Light Mission is not going to give you peace. The Guru of Divine Light Mission is going to give you the peace. Divine Light Mission is just an organization of those people who have realized this Knowledge. That's all. And you can come and join us if you want. I cannot explain how far out this Knowledge is, but when you get it you will like it. Thank you.
Truth is Always Victorious
Satsang of Shri Bal Bhagwan Ji, Satyalok Ashram, 15th April, 1970
Seeing your revolutionary zeal, I am reminded of the days of Guru Govind Singh who said, "With one devotee I will make a million." I am seeing the same thing today and now I understand how it is possible. You are facing so many difficulties and problems in your lives, but look! The path of truth is such a path where no matter what criticism comes your way you always speak the truth and behave as true disciples. The thing that is real cannot be criticised.
It said in an article on astrology in Calcutta – I am not learned in astrology, I am only quoting what I have read – it is said that on 21st November 1971 the Ram Raja will begin the Age of Righteousness, the Kingdom of Peace. Our ideal is to establish peace and love. We want to bind all nations in the thread of peace and love and with this principle we have to establish Guru Maharaj Ji's reign of love and peace all over the world. In this situation, every devotee will have to face a million atheists and conquer them with his love and strength, constantly remembering the Holy Name. Everybody must reap as he sows. The workings of karma cannot be changed, so we should not think badly of anybody, we should just ask Guru Maharaj Ji to let these people feel the peace and love that we feel. What we have received from Guru Maharaj J we should let others have also.
Humanity has fallen to a low level in today's world but good men are trying to raise it again. The message of humanity is beyond nations, it is universal. Great men are accoladed in various ways but for our Lord Guru Maharaj J we do service and pranam. I will explain why we do this, in scientific, sociological and scriptural terms.
If you want to turn a piece of iron into a magnet then you have to put it on the ground and rub a magnet over it. After this has been done thirty or forty times, then the iron also becomes magnetic. It had no magnetic qualities before, but now it has acquired magnetic qualities. Yet the magnet itself has not lost any of its
power. The first magnet, while maintaining the fullness of its magnetic power, also turned the iron into a magnet. People say Guru Maharaj Ji's Knowledge is the philosopher's stone, but we say no. The philosopher's stone turns iron into gold but not into the philosopher's stone itself. But when you put a magnet over a piece of iron, then the iron also becomes a magnet. Guru is the Word and by bowing himself to Guru, by allowing His Word to be rubbed over him, a man will also gradually acquire great spiritual power. The power to walk on water is nothing. It will only save you using a bridge or ferry but that power which means complete peace and understanding is something and that is what you get at the Lotus Feet of Satgurudev.
Speaking in a non-scientific way, we can see that man's ego is very strong, and the proud person always looks up and never bows before anyone. But there is a way to overcome pride, and this is the grace of Guru Maharaj Ji. So how is grace acquired? Grace is the power which is emitted from Guru and we are receivers. Take the case of the magnet. Put both North Poles together and repulsion will take place, because both are North, both are the same type of charge. So when we do pranam before Guru Maharaj Ji, if we keep our ego and pride within us, our feeling of greatness, then there will be repulsion, because Guru Maharaj Ji is truly great. This is the reason why many people who take Knowledge cannot get grace, and because they cannot get grace they cannot see the Divine Light in its perfect form, and they cannot hear the Divine music perfectly. Why? Because of the absence of grace. His grace removes all the pains of the world. But with the help of Holy Name, we can obtain the grace that will enable us to see the Divine Light. In this the obedience of Guru Maharaj Ji is most important. Without it, the source of grace is closed. The secret is that to get grace you have to bow before Guru Maharaj Ji. If you keep pride and deceit in you, then though He gives you the Knowledge, it will not flourish. The Knowledge will be wasted.
From a psychological point of view, the society we live in has some rules and some precedents. Because a father bows before his parents, then his own son will do the same. I n the same way we should bow before the supreme Guru. It is a sign of humility and respect, and creates a calm mind and civilized behaviour.
Truth is always victorious. When Christ was crucified, really He was victorious. Because He was the real saviour of the world they dragged Him onto the road, they put a crown of thorns on His head, instead of water they gave Him vinegar. Yet in such a situation, He was victorious because He knew the Truth. Such supreme understanding of Truth is indeed precious and the chances to obtain it in one's life are few, so utilize the opportunity when you can. Really, our relationship with Guru Maharaj Ji should be unbroken. Problems are only there for us to overcome. Many problems came in the way of Jesus, but He always solved them. Once, after He had received the Knowledge, He began to question whether He should propagate all the time or settle into a worldly life. Thinking about this He did not eat for forty days and then Satan came before Him and tempted. Him. Satan said He should turn stone into bread to satisfy His hunger, but Christ said, "Man does not live by bread alone. Man lives by that Word which God is speaking inside him." Christ told Satan, "I do not want to test God." We should feel the same way. Only love, faith, devotion and confidence will win Guru's grace. Do not try to test God, for this the devotee will never do.
Many people are now interpreting scriptures in different ways and this is why Guru Maharaj Ji incarnates. He incarnates again and again to give mankind the true meaning of scriptures and to reveal the Truth. God is beyond the senses through which all worldly knowledge is acquired. This is why learned people cannot understand God. They only misinterpret the scriptures. To know the real Word of God, we should not go to the scriptures, we should go to the Satguru of the time. The Eternal Name of God is not a matter of words which can be spoken and read. The purpose of our life is to know that Eternal Word and to merge into it. When there are difficulties, we need more strength, we need more concentration. So difficulties are good for you. Welcome them and overcome them. They are given to you for a purpose. They are given to you to help you. Remember that everything is the prasad, the holy gift of the Lord. So rejoice and overcome and become strong in the Knowledge of Shri Guru Maharaj Ji.
Central Hall, Westminster
Our Lord's discourse at the Central Hall, Westminster, on 2nd November, 1971
Dear brothers and sisters,
Today I am going to tell you a story about a great saint. He was walking along and he saw that a scorpion was getting drowned in a lake, and he was so kind that he went and tried to secure him from that water. He took the scorpion in his hand, the scorpion took a bite. When the saint felt this pain he let the scorpion fall. But again he goes into the water and saves the scorpion. And again he bites and the saint lets him fall. And again he picks that scorpion up and again he is bitten. But he again picks up the scorpion. There was a farmer who was observing this process for a long time, and he said, "Saint, why are you doing this? This scorpion is your enemy. He is trying to bite you, and every time he bites you, you let him go and then you again go and pick him up." The saint said; "Dear farmer, he is teaching me a lesson. It is his duty to bite. So thus it is my duty to save him. He's teaching me the lesson that even when I am saving him he is not leaving his duty. Due to whatever you call it, due to love or affection, he's not forgetting his duty. He is always ready to do his duty, even when I am saving him. He is teaching me a lesson, and so how can I leave my duty? My duty is to protect him."
Today I can clearly see the pain of this world. This whole world is drowned in pain. And why? There is a very clear reason and practically everybody knows it. See, India is limbering, India cannot walk straight, and the western countries cannot walk straight. Why? Because India has got a long, long spiritual foot but a very short materialistic foot. Western countries have got a very long materialistic foot but a very short spiritual foot. And when these two walk they can't walk straight. They just limber along. But when these two things are equal, then there will be the Kingdom of Heaven.
Just imagine, America was able to send so many Apollos to the moon, but did she gain peace? Was America satisfied? Now if she is satisfied why is she fighting with Vietnam? She is not satisfied. Why? A rich man came to Christ and asked Him, "Sir, can I know God?" and Jesus Christ told him that it is easy for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle but it is impossible for a rich man to know God. Why? Why is that? Can we say God is not a good judge? No. He is a perfect judge. Then why is that? Because as soon as a man gets proud he is completely immersed in pride. When he gets rich he is completely immersed in wealth. And he has no longer got time to think about his Father. About his Perfect Father.
We all have come into this world and we have got this beautiful body, we all have got this beautiful body. And we are so lucky really to be pres-
ent in this world. We are the fortunate ones to be in this world now. But then the question arises, why are we so dissatisfied? What is the thing that is troubling us so much from inside? What is this mosquito who is biting our mind at every moment, every second? This is our ego, our ignorance of the Holy Word of God. This Knowledge is so beautiful that if I am a Christian I can take this Knowledge and still be a Christian. If I am a Hindu I can take this Knowledge and still be a Hindu. If I am a Muslim I can take this Knowledge and still be a Muslim. If I am a Sikh I can still be a Sikh and take this Knowledge also. The Knowledge is like this. It is like mercury. If you put mercury into dirty water and take it out, the mercury is still shiny. It won't get dirty. Put it in sand. It won't get dirty, it will shine. This Knowledge is like that. Wherever you take it, into any religion, into any way of life, any sort of thing, wherever it goes it makes a man pure. You have to be pure in heart, pure in deed, and pure in thoughts. But remember friends, it is very easy to say this, it is very, very easy to say this – be pure in heart, be pure in deeds, be pure in thoughts. But how to be pure? Who is really pure in this world? What is the really pure thing in this world? The Holy Word of God is really pure. So know it. We have to know that Holy Word of God which is absolutely pure. And when we know this Holy Word of God we will also be absolutely pure.
We have to be like a lotus flower, like a lily. The lotus flower is found in India and in so many other countries also. It grows in water, dirty water, but it never touches the water. It is always away from the water. And if the water level rises the level of the lotus flower also rises. We all have to be like a lotus. Maybe this materialistic world is rising but we have to be even higher than this materialistic world. We haven't to touch this materialistic world, because as soon as we start touching it, the vibrations of imperfection start touching us, and make us imperfect. I have brought something very beautiful, extremely beautiful. I cannot describe it as being from a place because I haven't got the idea of duality, like east, west, south or north. India is not out of the world, India is in the world. London is not out of the world. England is not out of the world, England is in the world, yet this thing is so beautiful that it makes you realize the aim of your human life, your original aim, why you came into this world.
You must have seen my posters and these posters say, "Know the aim of the human life". Now what is the aim of human life? Is it to eat, drink and be merry? Is it? No. Then what is the real aim of human life? Why does the human come here? Even if you believe in the theory of evolution, you will reach the point where man exists. But why does man exist? Only because he has got a certain aim. He has got a certain thing to do. He has got an aim in his life which he has to fulfil. And once he fulfils this aim he is a perfect man. Perfect. So what is this aim? This aim is to realize the Holy Word of God. If you take the Bible it is written, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." If you take Guru Granth Sahib you will see it is written that there is a Word, and due to that Word sky, earth, sun, moon, everything exists, and this Word is in ourselves. And then you can take the Koran and in the Koran it is called Pak Nam, meaning Holy Name. What is this Holy Name? If you take Gita, this is written: "A Word which cannot be described, which cannot be spoken by mouth." Just because this mouth is imperfect. This mouth is not capable, this mouth is not perfect enough to pronounce that Name. So this Word cannot be spoken. Otherwise I would have been glad to speak this Word in front of everybody, on television, on radios, in movies, you know, and just in everything. But it cannot be spoken. Then how to realize this Word? So we all know that this Word is important. And due to this Word everything exists. Christ, Ram and just every saint describes the Word. So how to realize this Word then? Because this is the original thing. This Word is the original thing.
Now you can see that this was said in the Bible about the Word, in the Ramayana, in Gita, and in the Koran, and you can imagine about it, about how original and how ancient this Word is. You can just read the records and you can find it out, how ancient, how old, how, you know, how far out is this Word, which is being talked of by all the saints, the galaxy of saints, and loved by them. But how to realize this Word? Today you can press a button and the elevator will come. The door will open. You stand in it. Press the button, the door will close, you go up, the door opens, you go out. In a car you sit, you push a brake type of thing, you put it in gear, you press the accelerator, your car goes. Today, you take cameras, push a button, and your film is taken. But this Knowledge is not like this. You do not put in a coin, press the button and Knowledge comes out.
So how to receive this Knowledge? This Knowledge is not available in tube stations or in railway stations as many cigarettes, many biscuits and many other types of things are available in boxes where you put in a coin, press a button, and the article comes out. And this Knowledge is not in
books even. It is described in books but it is not even in books. Then where to find it? Should we say that this Knowledge has disappeared now? No. Gita says this Knowledge cannot disappear. As soon as this Knowledge disappears the world won't exist. Then, how to find this Word? We have to find this Word by a teacher, by a guide. A guide who is perfect, and who can teach this perfect Knowledge to us. A perfect guide can guide us. Like Mahatma Gurucharnanand just told you, you need a burning lamp to light other unlit lamps. So, same way, you need an enlightened Perfect Master to make you enlightened and perfect also. If the Master himself is not perfect, how can he make you perfect? You need a Perfect Master.
Now, where to find the Master? Where to find the Master? You know, you can't find him like you can a servant. You can't find him in theatres. Where will you find him then? Where is he? This hidden man. Where is he? You have to find him out. And how to find him out? There is a very easy test. You have to take a test before you find him out and the test is very simple. You have to take his Knowledge and test it. If this Knowledge gives you peace, well and good, go ahead. If not, immediately leave it and go away, don't follow it any more. If this Knowledge that he gives, if the Knowledge that he imparts is perfect, and gives you perfect peace, well and good, go ahead. If not, leave it and try to find another way. People may think that I want to change their religion from Christian to Hindu but they will be surprised to know that I myself am not a Hindu. I am not a Hindu. I am not a Christian. I am not a Sikh. Then who am I? I believe in one reality and that is the pure religion. Religion as a word started from the word realization and the realization of God is the pure and the perfect religion. There is a glorious sun, not the sun that you see in the sky, but a sun which is within ourselves, and which is much brighter, much, much, much brighter than the sun you see in the sky. When the sun comes out it only dispels darkness, but when this sun comes our it dispels darkness and impurities as well. Both things. It is much brighter than the sun which shines outside, and it is completely within us.
In India people used to go out from their homes to earn and later to come back. So there was a man who went outside to foreign countries and he earned quite a lot, he had five hundred pounds. And he was going back to his home and a thief saw him, and saw that he had five hundred pounds, so he came up to him and said, "Sir, where are you going?" And the man said: "Well, I am going back to my home," and he told the name of the place. The thief said, "Well sir, I am also going there. Would you mind if I accompany you?" and he said, "No, come along," and both these travellers started walking. They went to an inn and the man who possessed the money went down to take his dinner and this thief started searching. He searched in his pockets, he searched on his bed, under his pillow, but he couldn't get a single penny. He thought, this man is making a fool of me. He hasn't got a single penny, he just says he has got five hundred pounds. They were again walking and he said, "Sir, how many pounds have you got?" And he said, "Well I've got five hundred pounds." And they again went to an inn, and this man again went down to take his dinner and this thief again searched. He searched under his pillow, under his sheet, under his clothes, but he couldn't get a single penny. Again he thought, no, no he is making a fool of me. But finally they came to their home and the man who possessed the money took out his purse, took out five pounds, and said, "Well, these are for you. You may have them." And the thief said, "No thank you sir, I don't want a single pound. But can you answer my one question?" The man said, "Yeah." "Sir, I am a thief," he said, "Now you are quite secure in your home and I am not going to steal from you any more. I am a thief and I was after your five hundred pounds and now I know that you have got five hundred pounds because you have shown me, but can you tell me where did you keep this five hundred pounds when you used to go to dinner?" He asked him that, "Where did you keep this five hundred pounds when you used to go downstairs to eat your dinner?" The man said, "I used to keep this five hundred pounds under your pillow!" Before he used to go for his dinner, he used to take this amount of money and put it
under the thief's pillow! And the thief never searched under his own pillow. But he kept searching under the other's pillow. And he couldn't get a single pound. So, that's the same condition with the world today. The world is searching God outside.The world thinks, people think, God is a man. People think God has got ears, nose, teeth, and he rises daily in the morning, brushes his teeth and washes his mouth. And he is an old man also and he has a beard also, all the things that people think.
But no, God is energy. God is perfect and pure energy. As scientists say, energy cannot be created and cannot be destroyed. And this Knowledge of the Word of God; see how they say, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God" – now try to understand here – "And the Word was God." Isn't it a fantastic sentence? In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Now this is that Word. It is that perfect and pure energy, which has no creation and no destruction. And this is Word, this is God. And he is under our pillow. And if we search for him outside, can we get him? We can't get him. This is a very practical thing I'm putting before you. It's a very, very practical thing. People try to search for God outside. But how can they get him? God is inside.
Today people want love. I can truly and sincerely tell you this Knowledge is overbrimmed with love. This Knowledge is, you know, I can't explain how much love it contains. There is so much love that if you take the water of the whole seas around and on one side we put this love and on the other side we put the whole sea, the sea will be small, the love will still be more. If we take every human man's weight, add it, then we add the love of this love, this Knowledge will be still much bigger than any man's weight. And this Knowledge is love. This is it. This is the love. A thief cannot take it from you, this love is so much. No-
body can cut this love. You can experience it whenever you like. This Holy Word of God, you can meditate upon this Holy Word of God while you are sleeping also. You can sleep, you can eat, you can talk but still your meditation will be going along.
You know, I have seen many people in India talk about Gita and they talk about this Knowledge. They say, "This Knowledge is such a thing which goes on regularly. It cannot break." And then they take a garland and start counting it. You know, like that. Their rosary they take and start counting. Then there is the businessman counting his rosary and a telephone call comes. He takes the telephone receiver, and the speed of his rosary slows down, because his mind has been diverted into the receiver. And then he asks, "Yes, what is the matter?" And his secretary tells him, "Sir, we have gained seventy-thousand pounds!" And he is so overjoyed that he throws his rosary to one side and throws the receiver to one side and starts jumping. Now where did his devotion go? Where was his meditation? His meditation was broken. Is that meditation? No. It can be rosary meditation, I agree, or it can help you in a physical way, or something like that, something like that, or something like that. But is it perfect and pure meditation?
I can do yoga, and I believe yoga can help me to a limit, but is yoga the perfect and pure thing? If, suppose, today I've got my legs, my hands are O.K, my body is perfect, and I am doing yoga, and tomorrow I have an accident and my hand is broken, my leg is broken, then how I will be able to keep my leg on my neck? Just imagine. How will I do that? And you know that perfect meditation should be continuous. It shouldn't have a break in between. How will I be able to do that? So realize such a Word, brothers, that it may regularly go, never stop. This should be non-stop meditation. Always going on in you. Realize who you are, realize the aim of your human life. Today the guitar is played, you love it. Today rock-and-roll music is played, you love it. Today, you know, jazz music is played, you love it. Classical music is played, you love it. But there is a music going on inside us also. God plays that music, and it is such far out music, so symmetrical and so beautiful, that after one note man's mind is concentrated upon it. No question arises that a mind should trickle a millionth part of a millimetre this side or a millionth part of a millimetre that side. A man cannot move from this meditation, so perfect is this meditation.
If you take a rope by which you would tie an elephant and suppose you try to tie a little ant by that big thick rope, can you do it? You can't. There would be such a gap left that thousands and thousands could pass at one time. And if you try to tie the elephant by the string which you use to tie an ant, can you do it? The elephant will move like this and the string will break. So how can you do it? Can you do it? You need a little string for the ant and a huge rope for the elephant. And if you use them symmetrically then they can solve your purpose.
So, brothers, you need something to tie your mind down. Your mind is so small. It is the smallest thing in the world, and it flows very quickly; it has got more speed even than electricity, more speed than anything. You know a Jumbo Jet, a 747, has got a speed of five-hundred and eighty miles per hour. Now suppose this Jet is standing before me and I am going to fly to India in it. Even though I am still standing before the Jet, my mind has already reached Palam Airport India. The jet hasn't even started yet. I haven't even boarded it, my luggage has not been taken into the plane. My tickets have not been checked in. But still my mind has gone to India. It has already landed at Palam Airport, and now my mind is trying to find a taxi to take me back to my home. This is mind. So how are you going to control it? Take a tank of water. Not a drop is leaking from it. Give a man an oxygen cylinder and put him in this tank. Weld it on all sides so that air is neither going in nor coming out and neither is water going out or coming in. Now, from this tank water is not leaking, but man's mind is. It's still leaking. He is either thinking of the Eiffel Tower, or he's thinking of Disneyland in Los Angeles, or you know … the water is not coming from the tank, not a drop, but his mind is still leaking.
So how to control this mind? Buy a rope thick as an elephant's rope, can you tie this small mind with it? No. You need Knowledge to control your mind, to tie your mind up. You know this mind is so small, so tiny, so invisible, and to control it you need this Knowledge. And I am here, and I am ready to offer you this Knowledge without taking a single pence. Special discount! Absolute discount! You know not a single penny is being charged. And this Knowledge is so far out, so fantastic, so … how should I explain it? Even scriptures weren't able to explain this Knowledge. Because this Knowledge is beyond our mind. Away from our brain. The brain can work out how to drive a car, but it cannot work out how to explain this Knowledge. So this brain is very limited. The brain, the mind … very, very limited. Very limited. And this Knowledge is unlimited, so you cannot, you just cannot make a contract between these two things, the limited and the
unlimited. So just realize; here is this Knowledge, and it is free for you. No charge at all. And it's so peaceful that when you know it, when you realize this Knowledge, you'll say, "Oh this is fantastic!" Then you'll really feel it.
There was a king and somebody came into his court and said, "King, I want to sow a mango seed in this country," and the king said, "What is this mango?" And the man said, "I have brought a whole box full of mangoes," but still the king said, "What is a mango?" So he said, "The mango is a big, yellow, juicy thing, and it is like …" – he made a picture – "… it is like this." But the king said, "I still can't understand." And then the man gave some literature to the king, and the king read it and said, "Well, I still can't understand what is a mango." Then the secretary came and tried to explain, "Sir, I have also eaten a mango," he said, "the mango is sweet, and it has got colour like this, and it tastes something like that, or something like that, and you have to leave the skin and you have to eat the flesh part of it, and it's very good to eat." But the king said, "I still can't understand what it is." The next secretary tried to explain, then the third secretary, then the fourth, then the fifth, then the sixth, but the king couldn't understand. The seventh one was clever. He went away, took a mango, washed it, cut it up, offered it to the king and said, "Sir, this is the mango." The king ate it and said, "Yes, now I have understood what is a mango, now I have realized it myself so I have understood."
I'm describing the Knowledge. I'm saying Knowledge is something like this and something like this, it is far out, it is this and it is that and it is that. But you can't understand until you personally receive it. So receive it and then you will see for yourself how good it is, how beneficial it is. Only then will you understand what is the real juice of this mango. Today, many scientists are trying to discover so many things, but are scientists happy? Are the scientists really happy? No. Why? Because they can't, they can't get that Knowledge. They can't get this Knowledge by scientific means. They are unhappy.
Today, suppose, Mahatma Ji comes to me and begs me for food and I give him some. He'll go away, but tomorrow he again feels hungry, so he comes to me and begs for food. Again I give him some, and he goes away again because he has a full stomach, but the next day he will feel hungry again. And if I give him food again he will again feel hungry later. But if I teach him a technique of getting food, he won't come back to me again. Today,
if people see a beggar they will take out a penny from their pocket and give it to this beggar. But he will still beg. If today he is satisfied, tomorrow he will beg. And if for three days he is satisfied, the fourth day he will beg. So if you really want to help him, teach him a technique, teach him a technique so that he is completely satisfied throughout his life, so that he needs to beg no more. That is really helping him. The mind is the same. It starts thinking and you say well, that is better than this, and that there is even better, and then your mind says yes, and your mind is satisfied. But after a few seconds this process starts functioning again, because you know the mind is so subtle, it is so, you know, flickery. It flickers, flickers, flickers. And you say well, this is God and God is very holy and very high, and your mind says, "Yes, why not", and is satisfied for two seconds, and
then again starts flickering. Flicker, flicker, flicker, flicker. And then after a few seconds you say again, well, God is you know, God is very high, very holy, and he can kill the mind also, and mind says, "Yes, why not?" And the mind is satisfied for two seconds more, then it starts flickering again. It is like that man to whom you are giving two pence daily. Is he being helped? No, not at all.
How to help him then? And how to help your mind, how to completely satisfy your mind so that it rises no more? Because mind is the creation of man and not of God. Always remember this. The mind is a creation of man, but memory is a creation of God. Memory is a tape recorder which He has given us; it is a gift of God. But not mind. Mind has been created because two things are hitting each other. Your soul tries to hit and come out, you know. Not come out really but just give off this spiritual spark. Your soul wants to give out this Light outside, this peace inside which soul has got. But outside it is very carefully covered with sins, egos, pride and so many things. So as soon as it tries to come out it hits against these coverings and something is produced. A holy thing hits against unholy thing and another thing comes out, and that is ignorance. A complete vacuum. And that is your mind. This is it. For if you can once remove all your coverings of sins, egos, pride doubts, remove them away from you completely, you will then be satisfied. This Knowledge will spark out of you. They merge into the sea and then it is completely finished. Nothing more to do. This river is part of the ocean. Until it again meets and merges with this ocean it is not satisfied. But when it mixes with the ocean it is completely satisfied. You burn a lamp and the fire goes upwards. Why? Because it is a part of the sun. Until it goes and meets the sun, fire is not satisfied. In the same way, soul is part of God, and wants to go and meet with God. It wants to have a perfect communication with God. But you are stopping it. Why? It is not because your body is stopping it, it is not your body, it is the ignorance of your mind. People are so unhappy today they go and commit suicide, because they think that their body is stopping their soul having that perfect communication. It is not true. Your body is not stopping your soul going there. It is your ignorance that is stopping it.
So just try to understand what I want to say. People may think that I am an Indian so they shouldn't receive the Knowledge. You know, you are not receiving me. If you are receiving me then yes, you can have a duality in your heart of, you know, black and white. But you're not receiving me, so no question arises of black and white. You are receiving my Knowledge. Knowledge hasn't got any colour. So receive my Knowledge, not me. And this Knowledge is so holy, so perfect, that one spark that comes out of this Knowledge is so perfect, so, so perfect that wherever it goes, it hits, it makes perfect. And wherever it goes again, it •hits and again makes it perfect. Wherever one spark of this Knowledge shines out, it makes it perfect. And that Knowledge, I have got it here.
I took this Knowledge from London to America. I passed through the customs. The customs people opened my suitcase, checked my clothes, you know, and all my luggage, everything, but I was laughing, you know. These customs people were very suspicious because I was laughing. I was laughing because they were checking my luggage but still I was smuggling. And what I was smuggling was this Knowledge. They were not checking me, they were not checking my Knowledge. They were checking inside my luggage, and thus I smuggled that Knowledge, and I distributed it amongst many people, many, many people. And everybody became satisfied. I have satisfaction. I have love. I have devotion to give to people, to scatter to people.
You may be surprised why this Knowledge is free of charge. Just try to understand, a man can live without gold but he cannot live without food. And food is much cheaper than gold. He can live without food for a day or so, but he cannot live without water, which is even cheaper than food. He can live without water for an hour or so, but he cannot live without air which is absolutely free. So just understand this. Air has been recommended for you, air is fuel for you. You re-
quire it and it is absolutely free. This Knowledge is also recommended for you. This Knowledge is for you and because you must understand it, because you must know this Knowledge, you must practise this Knowledge, it has been made absolutely free for you.
So don't think that is a less valuable thing than your stereo record-player or anything like that. This is still most valuable, it possesses much value. Once you receive this Knowledge your heart leaps, it is so much filled with devotion and love. Love not towards this materialistic world but love towards God, who is your real father, who you've forgotten and whom you must realize. So don't look at my body and think that I'm a small boy and what can I tell you. There may be a small boy who can drive a car and there may be an old man who can't drive a car. So he has got a skill more than that old man. So don't say this. Our bodies are short, you know, some of less age, some of more age, but not our memory, not our skill. Our skill hasn't got any age. So just try to understand what I want to explain to you about that Holy Word of God, about that Knowledge.
We have to be sincere, we have to be pure in heart, and how to be pure? You know purity is not such a thing where you go into a restaurant and say, "Please give me a cup of pure tea," and take the tea, drink it, and you are pure. Purity is not like a soap that you buy from the market, saying, "Please give me a cake of purity soap," and you take this purity soap and rub it on your body and you become pure. This purity is not like that. Purity is obtained through this Knowledge. Through this far out thing, through this very high thing. Today, because we haven't got any feet to keep us in balance we are stag-gering. People think that we are drunk but no, we aren't drunk; it is our … you know. So what should we do about it?' We should take Knowledge. And you won't stagger any more. You will be in perfection. Then you will be guided by God. Perfect guidance will be given to you. So just realize the perfect aim of your life, why you have come into this world.
You know, I can take my hair and put many types of cream into my hair, many types of oil, many types of scent, but does that bring purity or peace into my mind, or into my hair even? No! Why, why? Because that is not it. It will do something else, but it will not do that.
I won't refuse to give you this Knowledge. I am always ready to give you this Knowledge. I am always happy to give you this Knowledge. I don't lose. I gain. I am a servant of God and I have completely devoted myself to God. How I was able to do this? Not by going to a place, putting my hand there, and saying, "Oh God, I am taking the oath that I am your servant", and so on and so on. And then come out and go to a restaurant and … you know. I never did that. So how to become an instrument of God? I experimented and I was able to realize that it was my mind. I said "O.K." I took this Knowledge and meditated till all this mind came out. And when it came out I felt that I was a completely different man. And to realize this Knowledge even I had to go to a Guru. A Guru is a Hindi word and you may be surprised to know that 'Gu' means darkness and 'ru' means light. That is called Guru. And in English if you translate this it will come out as teacher, a guide. A guide who can bring us away from the darkness of this materialistic world into the bright light of the Holy Light.
So, I am talking to you now. To my disciples I am talking to them like a Guru, but to those people who are not my disciples I am talking like a human talking to another human. And I'll say it again. I've got something for you here. If you want to receive it you'll be given the address. And please try to come tomorrow because we are leaving tomorrow. Tomorrow evening we are all leaving, three-hundred and fifty-three people are leaving in this 747 plane we have chartered from here to India, and three-hundred and fifty-three brothers and sisters are going in this plane filled with divinity. Not because it is Air India's, but because everybody who's going is filled with divinity. Everybody who's going in this plane is filled with the Knowledge. So this is a Divine Flight, we all are going in it, and we think we all are very, very fortunate because this is the first time, this is the first plane, which is flying to India with so many passengers for a spiritual purpose.
And then there is a very jumbo function in Delhi and one million and five lakhs people will come there. That's fifteen lakhs of people who are expected. And then after that there is again a function in Bihar, in Patna, where we expect the same amount or even more people. And for that we have booked three big grounds and in each of these grounds, if you wanted, you could make an airport. They are such big grounds. And people are going to stay in these grounds and they are going to experience this divine bliss.
So if you are interested in this Knowledge please come tomorrow from nine onwards, or ten onwards, and you will be able to realize this Knowledge. The door is always open for you, never closed. Always open for you. And so you can come and share this Knowledge, free of charge, with
us. People drink wine and they say 'cheers'. But then when you share this, this divine wine, this divine nectar it really is cheers. It is really something to be very cheery about! Because this divine nectar, it is nectar you know … So I am now, I'm trying to finish because people have to go a long distance and it is quite cold outside.
If a man is crazy you must say, "Please put your left foot forward first and then your right foot, then your left foot, then your right foot, keep your nose directed towards me, and then walk, left, right, left, right," till he comes to you. But if he is clever I will just beckon him and he will come to me. So I have given you all the hints that I wanted to give about this Knowledge and if you are interested you are welcome. If not you are most, most diswelcome. And if you want it you are most, most, most welcome. For this Knowledge is for you. Now I have received it and it hereby becomes my duty to participate, to share it with you people. Unfortunately this Knowledge cannot be spoken by mouth, otherwise it would have been my pleasure to tell all you people here. But it is not like that. So I can't tell you. But if you want me to reveal to you this Knowledge come there, where I am staying. The number is 567-6142, so come there. The address will be given to you and you can talk to me if you have any questions. If you have any doubts they can be very easily erased from your minds. And if you want to receive this Knowledge then you can even receive it.
Now may God bless you all and may He shower His divinity upon you all to give all humanity an intelligent mind to develop and to be able to erase illusion, delusion and pollution from this world. Thank you very much.
The Gospel of Peace
Answers from Shri Guru Maharaj Ji to questions from Indian people in South Africa, 4th May, 1972
We have got some press cuttings from different newspapers around the world, mostly from India, which give opposition to Divine Light Mission. Is there any newspaper or higher authority that has actually blessed the Divine Light Mission?
Yes. That is God. The highest authority, God, has blessed us. We are getting more opposition than anyone and still we are existing. It's God's grace. You are just sitting in South Africa reading the cuttings, but you should go and see how India really is now. Things are changing.
Do politics and religion go together?
Sometimes they have to go together, they have to be synchronized. Because politics governs the people physically and religion governs the people internally, spiritually. So if the two things are synchronized, it is better than both things going in different ways. Ghandi Ji wanted to make the Kingdom of Peace, but that is only possible when the King of Peace is here. If He were here preaching the gospel of peace then the two sides would automatically be synchronized. Actually the best politician is Satguru, and He is the best Spiritual Master too, because He knows politics and He knows everything. Today people think that by putting a gun to a man's head you can make him do anything, but that's not true. Only by converting his ideas can you make him do anything and Satguru has got that thing that converts ideas and that is the Knowledge. So he can serve people better than a politician. First of all He preaches the gospel of peace and once everyone knows it, we can start getting better politics. But what is politics? People think politics is just arguing, but really politics is the best policy for governing a nation. And politicians are people who carry out that policy.
But what about Tibet? Tibet was governed by priests but now the communists have taken over. So why did that happen?
First of all, what is the word for priest? Pujari, isn't it, and that means a man who does puja, a man who does prayer. He is a priest. Their work is not to govern Tibet.
Their work is to do puja for Guru Maharaj Ji, for the Lord of the Universe, who is God. But Guru is something else. Guru gives Light, and when Guru rules, everything is all right. Until now, there has only been one Kingdom of Peace, one Ram Raj, and that was governed by Rama. But if you turn the switch on and the Light doesn't come, then it means there is a fault either in the switch or in the bulbs or in the wire. So if the priests
were ruling Tibet and the communists took over it means there was a fault in one of them. There was a fault in one of the connections. And if that fault had been discovered and corrected, then there would have been true religion there. Leave that question anyway, because you are not a Tibetan and anything you do is not going to alter it now. What is done is done. What you need is not an answer for the Tibetan situation. What you need is peace. If you come to me and ask me these political questions, I will say first of all let me preach the gospel of peace and then I will tell you about politics. Because we need peace first. There is too much politics in the world, there are too many politicians, too many political minds. We don't need to ask why something has happened. And if that is what you want to know then I am sorry because I can only give you peace. If I am a cloth merchant, why come and ask me the rate of iron? First is peace. We need peace. Peace is important.
If you were in India during the IndoPakistani war, then why didn't you end it?
If I had been preaching to Mrs Indira Gandhi and Mr. Bhutto then it would have been alright. But I was not. I was preaching to people who wanted to hear me, who wanted to receive the message of peace. If a bulb is shining in this room, it doesn't mean that the whole house is lit up.
But if you have a special quality which can bring peace … ?
This special quality is inside, it is spirit, and it can be connected to spirit, not to man's thinking and acting system. First it has to be connected inside. When spirit and spirit are connected then there will be peace. Otherwise there is magnetic reaction.
But what is that special quality that you are claiming to have?
I only preach the gospel of peace and give people this Knowledge which enables them to gain peace.
But your followers claim that you are an incarnation of God.
So why are you asking me, "Why are you claiming this? " I am not saying that. It is my followers who are saying it. Go and ask them, "Why are you saying He is God? " and they will tell you.
So you say your only special quality is preaching the gospel of peace and giving the Knowledge?
And nothing else?
Now I would like to ask, what is the difference between a Satguru and a Siddhiguru.
There is a lot of difference. By the grace of Guru Maharaj Ji you can serve the Lotus Feet and gain the Knowledge that gives peace of mind. There are many siddhis, but they don't give you any peace. Siddhis are powers which you acquire but they are lower than Knowledge, because Knowledge is that power that governs everything and that gives power to the siddhis. So what is that supreme power? Remember Satguru is greatest. If Guru and God are standing together, before whom do we prostrate first? It is Satguru, since through Guru we realize God.
So in this world, if you want to argue, there are many things to argue about. If you want to ask questions, there are many things to ask questions about. But the main question is, how to attain peace. Other things are not important, they come and go, but the Knowledge is important because it gives us peace. Knowledge is by itself in me, and by meditating on it I can get peace. Siddhis need something else to react upon. If I want to change the colour of the carpet, then I need a carpet in the first place before I can change the colour, right? But this Knowledge stands alone, it is itself perfect, self-dependent and inside me. It can answer all questions. It can calm that thing inside us that is flickering and making our thoughts go so quickly. Arjuna said, "Lord, I can control the elements of the air but I can't control my mind." So what did Krishna do? Krishna gave him the Knowledge. And this Knowledge is easy to receive and it's not easy to receive. To fly from one place to another is very easy, but if you don't get a plane it is very hard. To get this Knowledge is very easy but if you don't find the Guru it is very hard. Without devotion for Satguru you will never feel the true vibration of heaven, you will never achieve detachment from this materialistic world. But go to the Guru and then it is very easy.
But I have been given the impression that siddhigurus can initiate disciples, and then they can progress very quickly spiritually. Is this a fact?
The Satguru is the giver of Truth. Is there anything bigger than Truth? I am just asking your opinion.
So if our Master is preaching Truth, then He Himself must be the Highest Authority. Right? So that Master has got an excess of grace and when He gives us some of it, everything happens, and we don't need siddhis. Siddhis are connected to our mind and are below it. Mind is the twelfth stage. Before it are the five faculties of perception, the five faculties of action, and the brain. But beyond the mind is the thirteenth stage, and that is the stage of perfect peace and that is where the Knowledge takes you. So you can only be helped when you personally know the Knowledge. I keep telling you but you don't understand me. As long as you have questions you cannot understand. Theory cannot describe it. It is a matter of practical experience.
What do you have to say about Bhagwan Ramakrishna Param Hans initiating Swami Vivekananda?
It was the Knowledge imparted by Ramakrishna Param Hans that made Swami Vivekananda understand all the mysteries. In the Gita, Arjuna asks so many questions, and Krishna answers them. But because of this Arjuna did not say, "Oh Lord, you are the yogis' Yogi and the gurus' Guru. I am sorry I called you my friend and cousin." When he realized the Knowledge he said that. There were many discussions between Swami Ramakrishna Param Hans and Swami Vivekananda, but that didn't satisfy him. The Knowledge itself satisfied him and I must give priority to that thing that satisfies me. Because what was it that made Swami Ramakrishna Param Hans a guru, a Holy Man? It was not the knowledge of scriptures, because many people today have a good understanding of scriptures. But we are lacking for Knowledge itself.
But how is power transferred from the Master to the disciple?
Is there a special system?
Only grace. On the receiver's side it is a question of being a humble servant. Being learned means nothing in receiving this Knowledge. Merely desiring it means nothing. Guru Nanak had this power, but He didn't give it to His son, did He? His son never had this power. And from the Guru's side it is a question of grace. When we are humble disciples He then gives us His grace. Not before. In my satsang today I am saying many things from scriptures. But I haven't read the Gita. I haven't read the Ramayana. All the knowledge I've got today, I got from my Father's satsang. But only the Knowledge and the grace of my Lord has made me able to preach it. Only Knowledge and grace. Grace is necessary to make the Knowledge active and to make it more glorious. It is like a booster, it is like an amp-lifier. It is like a transformer. It elevates. I know the Knowledge of the Word. I know what I am hanging from. I am not hanging from my lungs and I am not hanging from my heart. I am hanging from my spirit, I am hanging from my soul.
And if you want to have real confirmation of what I am saying, you do not need to read the papers. They don't matter. What I see matters. Papers can print anything. I can publish a magazine today and write anything I want in it. Papers even criticise Indira Gandhi. Even though she has done a great job for India, still some criticise her. So don't believe
anything they write about me, at least not when I am alive. When I am dead you may believe them if you want, but why believe them when you can come to the living thing? Papers are meant to give you information. It doesn't mean they print the truth. But today this illusion has arisen that anything the papers say must be true. First of all papers printed that I was coming in December, but I never came. I had to change my programme, I had some important work to finish. If I were dead it would be different but I am alive so ask me what I say. Do I call myself God? Ask me. Why do you believe papers? I am not printing papers. Papers are being published by separate organizations which might cooperate with me or criticise me. As long as I am alive, ask me. People say I am God, but I don't say I am God.
I have a small question. How does an individual know that he is really progressing on the spiritual path? What signs does he have?
The fluctuations of the mind will start slowing down, then…you should know the Knowledge and then you will see for yourself what the effects are.
Isn't it better for the disciple to act the Knowledge rather than talk about it?
Both should be done. Knowledge should be manifested and practised and talked about, so that other people can know about it and receive it.
But can't you let people know about the Knowledge without talking to them?
Well, if you start using signs they might think you are crazy. God has offered us a tongue and with it He he has offered us a voice box, so we should utilise them!
What he is trying to ask is can't you send the message without the tongue, like …
It is not a joke. It is a fact! I read about it in a book about Ramana Maharshi, that a journalist went to him to ask many questions and Ramana Maharshi was sitting in meditation, and when he finished meditating someone told the journalist he could start asking his questions. But the journalist did not have any questions. They has all mysteriously been answered.
Maybe that was Ramana Maharshi's method of communication.
No, I wasn't talking about that. I am just suggesting that disciples should manifest the Knowledge in themselves by the way they live, and nothing more.
You see how illusory the world is. Why don't you try to experience what you are trying to tell me. First you cannot express anything until you have experienced it. If I am sitting in my chair and suddenly the door opens and air blows and windows start banging I get frightened, don't I. I think who is there? And then I run out. See? It is a matter of experience. We must know what we are experiencing. And when we are experiencing peace and we want to express it to somebody we must use our tongues to do it, mustn't we?
To a certain extent, maybe.
I am just asking you to answer yes or no.
Look, if you are sitting with your friends, the same friends you sat with before you received Knowledge and you are feeling some peace because of the Knowledge, they can tell you are more peaceful but then you should give them some more infromation about it, about how they can receive the Knowledge too.
But I think you can only feel the vibration when someone isn't talking. If they are talking I can't feel the vibration.
Look, Guru talks and people who want to feel the vibration of His presence always feel it, but only those people who want to. A walkie-talkie reaches those people who are tuned into it. The radio reaches those people who are tuned into it. Right?
Guru Maharaj Ji, would you say something about the humble duties of our mothers, sisters and wives. the ladyfolk of this country.
They need to obtain this Knowledge and get peace of mind like men.
But some people are saying that to spread this Knowledge they must leave their husbands and their work, must leave this, leave that and even forget Lord Rama.
Who is putting this statement? Those who haven't any shame. Bring them!
And another thing is, Guru Maharaj J who amongst your disciples are those worthy to reveal your Knowledge. Can anybody do it?
Those people who have realized
it, who have received special permission and who have grace. No one else is capable.
Suppose I already have a guru, does that mean I should reject him?
Without True Knowledge your true nature can never be revealed to you. If you are satisfied with the water from one tap then there is no need to go to another tap but if the first tap is useless for you and does not satisfy your thirst, then you must leave it and go to another tap.
But what about Rama and Krishna?
I respect Rama and I respect Krishna. They were the born Lords of their time. More than respect, we should pray to them. But today what we really need is Knowledge and for that you need the Perfect Lord who is present at this time.
Does that mean that you are claiming to be the only Guru in the World?
If you have received the Knowledge from me and you have achieved perfect satisfaction, yes, for you I am the only Guru.
Do you want to be the Guru for the world?
Have you been inside my body, have you been inside my brain, so that you can understand what I want? No, you are creating imagination. You can do that in algebra but this is not algebra. What I want is to serve humanity. I am just a humble servant of humanity and I want to preach this Knowledge just to help them. Today so many wars are taking place. They are not helping anyone. They are destroying nations. Bombs destroy hospitals and important places. What I want to do is to preach peace.
Are there other Gurus in India like you?
Why don't you go and search?
This is a very basic question to ask, you should not avoid it, otherwise there is no point in discussing it with you.
I am telling you straight, I am not joking with you. Now tell me one thing, will you believe what I say?
We will only believe what we think is true.
Then why bother to ask me anything? Now listen. Many gurus can say they are perfect so what is the method to realize which is the real one and which is artificial? If there are two types of fruit before us and they are the same in all respects but one is artificial and one is real, then how can you test between them? Only by tasting, isn't it? That's what I want to tell you. You should test all these gurus for yourself. Finding the Perfect Master and obeying the Perfect Master is not a small thing. It's not like buying a new car and if it goes wrong throwing it away and buying another. Following a Perfect Master is a whole-life thing because you are going to believe in Him forever because perfect things last forever. So don't believe me. Even if I say I am the Perfect Guru, don't believe me. If you really want to know you should say to me, "If you are a Perfect Guru, give us Knowledge." And if you are completely satisfied with the Knowledge, I am your Guru. Only by eating the fruit do we understand that the lemon is sour and the apple is sweet.
Somewhere in the magazine, Maharaj Ji, I read that you are the only Supreme Power who can lead one to the Light of God and other gurus aren't important. Now what experience have you had of these other gurus that you can utter these words?
But I never said that. Show me where it is written. Everything I say has a foundation. Yes, the question is, what is the purpose of all other teachers who are on the earth now? And I answer, when there is a tree, beside that tree are many weeds and these weeds are unnecessary. So when the gardener comes he takes them all out. What are they doing there? They are just there. When this tree really grows into something they will abolish these weeds. It will be very powerful. These weeds are unnecessary, they are just wasting one's time. People go to them and it
takes five years for them to decide "No, he is not a true master, let us look for somebody else", and they go to somebody else and they waste their time again, they waste five years unnecessarily. There is no use in this. To waste five years of your time is always unnecessary if there is only one Master. So isn't that true?
If there is only one Master, everybody can rush to Him. If these weeds were not there, then the Perfect Master would stand out and everybody could go to Him and receive Knowledge without wasting time. But these weeds distract people and they stop people from coming. The trouble is, people are so suspicious nowadays because everything is so artificial.
But aren't you saying you are the tree? No, I don't say I'm the tree.
Let me tell you what I think. I may be wrong but I think you are saying to your disciples that you are a tree and there are a lot of weeds around you, and one day you will wipe those weeds out and you will be the Spiritual Master. That's what I think.
That's what you think.
That's what I think, but I may be mistaken.
Let me explain. First of all I know this business from beginning to end, because I have been giving all the answers. This happened in London ashram didn't it? This is our magazine and it has quoted what was said and you can go there and ask the people. Now this man was my disciple when he asked this question, and my answer to him is fact. If I am a weed, then it is still a fact And if I am a tree, then still what I said is true. But if I say I am a tree and you have realized me, you have asked me for my fruit, you have taken it, you have eaten it, but you have gained nothing, then you will know that I am not the tree. Now you are more intelligent than me in a worldly sense, so you must know what's right and wrong, and you have created the impression in yourself that I am trying to be a tree. But let me say that I never try to be a tree. I am what I said, a humble servant of humanity and that is very clear.
The Perfect One Is Here
Satsang of Shri Guru Maharaj Ji, Johannesburg, 29th April, 1972
Every satsang is just a discussion on one subject and that is True Knowledge which brings peace of mind. Many great saints got fantastic experiences from this wonderful Knowledge and just wanted to spread it to all people. In every age a great saint like Rama, Krishna, Buddha, Mohammed and Christ has taken birth on earth for this purpose, to give this Knowledge to other people because, in their time, the truth had declined, spiritual understanding had been lost. As far as spiritual matters go, they were ages of darkness.
Now in the same way, an age of darkness is again here and the Perfect One has come on earth again to plant the seed of Truth. His presence is most necessary because of the strength of the opposite forces which are working in the world, attracting man with his weak and fickle mind. Against truth there is always un-truth. Against love there is hatred. Against peace there is war, and so on. There are also so many subtle forces working in a man's mind to make him search for satisfaction in places where it has never existed.
People today are so sophisticated they have become foolish because they cannot believe that the Perfect One is here. Even if they have some religious feeling, some inner understanding of the truth, they cannot conceive of the Living Master. In other subjects they will not be satisfied with something that is dead, with something that is past. If in India we abandon the government of Indira Gandhi and start trying to follow Mahatma Gandhi's ideas, the result will be failure. If you only read the scriptures properly you will see that they all talk about a Living Master. No scripture exists which does not talk about True Knowledge, or divine experience, being imparted to a disciple by a Living Master.
We read the scriptures without understanding what they are saying. Indian people read the Bhagavad Gita and in this Lord Krishna, the Living Master of His time, said clearly, "Don't recognize me by my external appearance for this is perishable. My true form has no beginning and no end. And you, Arjuna, cannot meditate with these external eyes. For how can you see the imperishable with that which must die? How can you behold the infinite through the finite? But I can open up your Divine Eye with which you can see my Divine Form."
So how are we going to recognize God if He comes on the earth? Are you going to ask to see His identity card or passport? See if it says, "Name … God. Occupation … Generator, Operator, Destroyer." That is foolish! Or are you going to recognise Him only if He fits in with your mental picture of Him, what you have picked up from the scriptures and other impressions, what you imagine Jesus or Krishna looked like? But even two Christians will have different impressions of what Jesus will look like. So what will be recognised by one will not be recognised by the other. But the test of the Perfect Master will be that which is undeniable to everybody and that is the experience of Himself which He can give, and that is the True Knowledge.
All over the world people follow the same daily routine. They go to work in the morning and come home in the evening. That's O.K. You have to work to support yourself. But many people use their daily routine as an excuse for not realising anything about spiritual truth. We don't work twenty four hours every day. We can always spare a few hours for devotion but people spend their spare time on worldly pleasures and when troubled they complain to God.
Believe it or not the fact is that God is supreme and pure, but people are lying on a bed of ignorance and dreams and doubts. They expect God Himself to come, they pray for it, they ask for it, they announce about it, but when He comes they fail to recognise Him. And not recognising Him in His physical form, they cannot recognise Him within themselves. People have forgotten their Creator. What is the Name of your Father? Does anybody here know what He looks like? There's going to come a time when you are going to be asked, "Who is your Father?" What reply are you going to give? Nil. Born without a Father.
Every Master has said that people should know the Holy Name. They advise everybody to become wise and to recognise how precious is their life. And that's what I am trying to make this world understand. Know how precious life is, and then know how precious is that which gives us life. Know that Divine language which men did not create but which the soul always speaks. Every soul speaks the same language. Know that language of love which swells within the human temple.
It is said in the Vedas, the Indian scriptures, that when the Dark Age comes the only thing that can save a man is constant meditation on the Holy Name. So we are so lucky to know that Holy Word and to have got it at a discount. I am prepared to reveal this Knowledge at any time so it is up to you to take this golden opportunity. If you don't seem to make progress with this Knowledge do not blame Guru Maharaj Ji. You have it in your power to conquer the egos and doubts in the mind. These are the thorns, but the Knowledge is the rose.
I don't mind the difficulties that are being put against me. Whenever He comes to the world the Perfect Master has to tolerate many difficulties. I have come to spread this Knowledge and that is what I am going to do. Understand this and believe it. Are you hesitating to receive this Knowledge? Why? It is very simple Knowledge. It will give you complete peace of mind. It will give you infinite bliss. Do not complain later on that you were never told about this Knowledge. Again and again, I do nothing but to tell you all to take this Knowledge.
Thank you very much.
He Created Everything
Satsang and answers from Shri Guru Maharaj Ji, Johannesburg, 3rd May, 1972
All of you brothers and sisters might think that there is a particular reason why I have called you here today. The reason is very s mple. It is because we have all received that fantastic Knowledge and we now speak the language of love and live the life of peace and no more are we in frustration and illusion. By great luck and great fortune we can't receive this Knowledge. Fortunes come and go away. Luck comes and goes. A man is poor, he becomes rich, and rich people become sick, ill, and they die. So luck comes and goes and it is not due to luck that we receive the Knowledge, nor is it due to fortune that we have received the Knowledge. It is due to grace. And it is not my grace, it is the grace of the Lord, the Lord of the whole universe who is almighty and who we call our Father, our real Father.
Today people are practising many types of thing. The people who have received Knowledge know how easy it is to meditate upon it. And why I have called you is because I want you all to co-operate with me to help me spread this Knowledge throughout South Africa and the world. That's all I need and that's all I want.
Mahatma Ji was just talking of service. I need nothing. I don't need money. If you give me money maybe I could buy a Rolls. If you give me more, maybe I could buy a Lear Jet and if you give me more than that, probably I could buy a 707. And if you give me more than that, probably I could buy a 747. But I can't buy God with money. And God is what we need. We don't need 747's, we don't need Rolls's. We need God and God is not purchased with money.
So today you must determine to
co-operate with me in spreading the real message of the Lord, the real Name of the Lord. Not my message, not my name, but the message of the Lord, the Name of the Lord. To speak the message of the Lord to everyone in the world. To knock on all the doors and tell how far out this Knowledge is. Because it is! We are not speaking a lie. It is far out. This is why we must tell everyone and knock on everyone's door. That's what we have received and that's what you should receive. So meditate upon this Knowledge because meditation is like food. Once you get the food, then you have to eat it. So this is meditation. Once you have received this Knowledge you have to meditate upon it. When you are meditating upon it you are eating it, you are eating it, you are realising it, you are going into it. So that's all I ask. I don't ask for anything else. And if you want to render me any service, I think the highest service you can render me will be to tell people about this Knowledge. Because you are going to help me spread the Knowledge of God in this world. This is not the knowledge of a video, this is not the knowledge of a camera. It is not the knowledge of a mike or of a house. This is the Knowledge of Almighty God who is present everywhere, even in us. And people should know Him because if they don't they are an orphan child. The Father is there, but the child doesn't know Him. He is very unlucky. We are all children. We are not God's uncle or His brother or His nephew, but we are all God's children. Really we are infants. Because of sins we feel sad, but God if we realize Him – doesn't mind about them.
We are actors in the movie of this world. We are acting and we are doing sins and good things too. But if we surrender ourselves to the Almighty Lord – and there is no one else in the world we can surrender to – then all our actions, all our sins will be on Him, and He will just blot them out.
So I'm not going to take a long time, but what I want to tell you is to receive this Knowledge and if you have it, to meditate on it and spread it all over the world. Tell people this is the Knowledge that they can all receive, so that they will know about it and take full privilege of it. Because they are your brothers and sisters, they are your family. People think this is South Africa, this is England, this is India, this is Burma, this is China, this is … and so on. But no, it's the whole world that is. We should not see just a country or just a part of the world but now we should look at the whole world. We may think we belong to India, but God who created us has created the whole universe. Our country is not India. Our country is not China. Our country is not England; our country is the whole world. Our world is the whole world. And all are relatives. Some are wives, some are sisters, they are all our relatives, all over the world, so we must tell them, we must give them the opportunity to know this Knowledge and to meditate upon it. So now I have told you what I want, just to spread this Knowledge, and that's all. And it's easy, it's not difficult. And you have time to do it. You go to business, alright. You return back from business, alright. But you still get some time. Give this time speaking to people about this Knowledge, about this Holy Word.
And now meditate upon this and get higher and higher into it. It goes in steps, you know. When we enter this room at first there was a light and we thought the light was sufficient. Then this man brought this sun gun so that he could take the movie, and this light is so bright that we think the old light will not be sufficient. The same light that we were seeing before is not sufficient for us now. And if an even brighter light comes than this sun gun, then this sun gun will not be sufficient for us because we will have seen a brighter thing. And in this way we will grow and grow as the light gets brighter and brighter until even the sun comes. But for people who have seen a brighter light than the sun, the sun is nothing for them. So that Light and that Word within us and within everyone exists and because of it you are alive, you are surviving. So what more should I tell you? I can only tell you to meditate. What more can I tell you? You have realized this Knowledge. You have heard satsang, and you have realized. So now there is nothing more to say. Because once we have received this Knowledge, we
don't speak an ordinary language; we speak the language of love. Once we have received the Knowledge, we don't live an ordinary life, we live a life of peace. Practise peace. That's all. Now I have told you, and if you want to do something for me, spread this Knowledge. Tell people about this Knowledge. And now, if you have any questions about what I have just said, please ask. If you have any questions at all, please ask.
Who are you?
Who am I? I'm just an ordinary humble servant of God, preaching the gospel of peace in the world. People might call me God, but I don't think I am God. I think I am a humble servant preaching the gospel of peace, preaching the Knowledge of peace. Am I anything else? You are seeing my body, but I am not my body. What I am is something else inside me. What are you? You are not body, you are something else. What I am seeing when I look at you is a perishable object, a case in which that power, that soul, is being carried. Understand? When you see a camera„ what you are seeing is not the camera. It is a tin case. The machine is inside it. Right? The case is not taking the picture. What you are seeing is a case. And what is me is inside it. And if you want to know what that is, then look inside yourself, and once you realize that, you can realize what is inside me. Because that's the one common factor amongst all of us. It's not your body, because you can't operate on it. Doctors can do operations but they don't see that Light inside us. Not by these eyes can you see that Light. It is the Divine thing, and to see that really you need the Divine thing.
What happens to all the souls that leave the body?
They go, and where they go is explained in many ways according to beliefs. Christian people believe in resurrection, that all the dead bodies will come back and be alive again. There are many beliefs, but I've not read them all. I only know two beliefs, the Indian belief and the Christian belief, because while I've been travelling throughout the world I meet mostly Christian people. They have been telling me their beliefs, but what is according to Indian belief, if you are interested, I can tell you that too.
All right. According to Indian belief we do actions and then we have to get the fruit of these actions. Good fruit for good actions; bad fruit for bad actions. So, if we have done good actions, we are carried to that place which we call paradise, right? But if we have realized this Knowledge we don't go to paradise. Instead we go to heaven, the place of God, understand? And if we have done bad actions we go to hell, where we suffer the bad fruits and get the punishment for the sins we have committed. But once we know the Knowledge, sins vanish, because, according to Lord Krishna, one who has realized the Knowledge and is meditating at the last moment of his life, remembering God, Krishna says, "Without doubt he reaches me." Even if I have done sins throughout my life, if at the last moment somebody gives me Knowledge and I practise that Knowledge, where will I go? Not to hell, not to paradise, but to heaven. That's how it is. That's why saints have always recommended that we should have the Knowledge, whether we have done good actions or bad actions.
What is hell? Where is it?
It is just nothing. It is just a place where we seek our punishment. It's like this. This is a classroom and I am a child making lots of noise and the master says, "If you make more noise I'm going to send you out." But still I continue making noise. The master says, "Get out of the class!" And I stand outside. That's all. I'm doing my punishment.
Will this Knowledge save us from re-birth?
Yes. Once we have this Knowledge we reach the heaven from where we cannot return.
Excuse me, is there no such thing as reincarnation according to the Divine Light Mission?
When we know this Divine Light, if we have to come back again, then what's the use of it?
I don't know. That's why I am asking you.
Once we know this Divine Light, we reach Divine Man. And once we reach Divine Man, nobody wants to return from there.
In other words, if we take Knowledge, according to your teachings, we become perfect?
If you place an object in the sea, it doesn't become sea does it? First we must realize what we are. We must know our source. What is that source? We must not think we are our brain. Our brain is a simple organ making us act and react to things. We think of something like, "I want to walk out of this room." My idea comes, the brain works, I get up and walk out. The
brain is just a simple messenger between me and my other organs. I am not surviving because of my brain. If a man dies, we can operate and see his brain is still there. But there is something else. If you think a man is surviving because of his lungs, then operate. The lungs are there, all other organs are there, only one organ is missing, and that's no organ, that's no limb. That's soul! That s the power. And what is that? That's part of God. If I say "I'm perfect", am I perfect? No, because I am using "I", and the perfect thing does not use "I" for itself, because it is not a separate body. Understand? As long as "I", "we", "you" and "me" are there, we are not perfect. But if by any means, let's say anything, including Knowledge, we are able to remove our "I" then we are perfect. When we come to this stage of complete realization we can see all other things. It is a completely different stage. Only if we reach that stage can we realize it. You know, I can't really tell you the experience of that stage or whatever it is. To know it you must have the practical experience. If I ask you, "What is Christianity?" you won't be able to tell me. I have to personally become a Christian, and then realize for myself the experience of Christianity. You can't tell me by words. If you could, then everybody could know beforehand. It's not like that. You have to become it. So I can't tell you the real experience of that stage. No, we become t. We are merging with the perfect, alright? Take a glass of water and take a dropper, let a drop drop down into the glass, then try to find out where the drop is. Can you find it? It has been merged. It goes through the merg ng stage, then it becomes merged. Isn't it true? It's the same with us. We merge into the perfect thing, and that's when we become perfect. In other words, it is not "we" who are really there, but because
I talk in English and that's the language where we use "we's" and "I's" and "you's", that's what I am using here. But there's no "we" there, really, because you can't figure it out. You won't be able to say, "This is me and this is you", you know. You won't be able to figure it out because they've completely merged. So there's no "I's", "you's", and "we's". It's a simple matter of realization. Just realize. It's far out really!
Guru Maharaj Ji, where did you receive this Knowledge?
From my Guru. It's not like an apple that comes out of a tree. I received it from my Guru. He was my Father and He gave me this Knowledge. He gave me this Knowledge and He ordered me to give it to other people. Which is what I am doing now.
Is it necessary to be a vegetarian?
That's on you. I tell you about Knowledge, not about food. It's not my subject, I can't tell you anything about that.
In the Bible, in the Torah, in the Koran, they all preach peace and people have been practising these religions for thousands of years. Now is the peace that you are talking about different to the peace that we can read about in the Bible and the Koran?
See. If you can get peace by reading, then we don't need churches and we don't need priests. That's alright. Get the Bible from the market and read it. Then you've got peace. Let me explain. I need water, and I read in a book the word water. All right? I was thirsty, I read "water", and my thirst is gone away. Is that right?
That's not right. The word "water" is just a composition of letters. So what is peace? Do you think P-E-A and all those other letters are peace? P for pet, and so on. Is that peace? No. It is just a composition of single letters collected from a particular language. So what is peace? Peace is something else. If I am talking about food, suppose I say "lady's finger" or "bindi". Different words meaning the same thing. They are just collections of letters composed in a manner which indicate, which represent something. That thing cannot be put in a book. Only some letters indicating it can be put in a book. I cannot put food into a book, so I send a word there which represents it, and that word is "food". So that's it. What is peace? Peace is something else. If peace could be given by just putting these letters together, then God would have taken lots of small pieces of paper and printed "peace" on them and showered them down like rain. In America, when the Vietnam war started, everyone was chanting, "Peace, peace, peace". And before the President's house in Washington D.C. there were boards saying, "Peace". But peace was not there. The word peace was there, but peace is something else. It is a matter of realization, it is not a matter of reading.
Guru Maharaj Ji, do we have to leave the religion of our birth to acquire your Knowledge?
What is religion? Religion is a way of believing in God, that's all. I believe in resurrection. Some Christian people believe in resurrection. Some Hindu people believe in rebirth. That also is a way of believing in God, and there are other ways, all made by the sages of ancient times. But what is important is not the way of believing, it is to know the Knowledge.
Guru Ji, are there any other Perfect Living Masters?
I can't tell you, you must go and realize for yourself. What is a Perfect Master? When you use the word "perfect", then it has to be one thing, not two. I told you, there is no question of "I" and "you" when we are talking about the perfect. When you say "perfect" there can't be two, there can only be one. Can there be more?
Can you explain to me this Knowledge in terms of yoga?
What is the meaning of yoga? Actually, yoga is an Indian word meaning union. One and one, when they yog, when they combine, make two. And what is the real yoga which Krishna teaches in the Gita? He says it's Raja Yoga. This means King Yoga. Amongst all the unions, this is the greatest union, the greatest communication, because it is between us and God. Taking a drop and putting it into the glass, that's it. That's called real yoga.
But what I want to know is where does God fit in relation to our chakras?
God is omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent.
How do you receive the grace of God?
Through the Knowledge you can become one with God. Through the Knowledge you're in frequent communication with God. I have just been explaining what is meditation, what is yoga. It is making communication. It's more perfect than a telephone and more perfect than a telex. It is instantaneous free communication. When you want to book a call, you dial the operator and tell him, "I want to book a call." But it's never like this with Knowledge, there's no operator in between. There is just the telephone office and Satguru is the Telephone Manager. And the telephone is a walkie-talkie. Do you understand?
Guru Ji, how does the Knowledge tie up with the awakening of the kundalini?
You must know the Knowledge and realize it for yourself. How can I tell you? This is not something that can be put into words. Words are just used for representation of a thing, but if something hasn't got any representation, how can you apply words to it? There are so many questions and people get so worried about them. A question is like a white ant eating a man from inside. But questions can be dissolved by taking the right medicine, and then everything will be alright.
I have been interested in the path of spiritual truth and leading people along it, but now I'm very impressed that I must unlearn what I have learned and teach my people your teachings.
First of all, people have to be introduced properly. You know, you can't go around with this videogram camera telling everyone, "This is a videogram." People will get afraid of this gun type of thing. First of all you have to tell them properly that this is a videogram. Give them a perfect introduction, then they will understand what it is and not be frightened. And if you are going to give it, it should be at the right price and through the proper dealer. The dealer should be authorised, and to be authorised, you have to have a special licence, and this comes from the Guru who has taught us this Knowledge. And with this licence He also makes us solid inside so that it doesn't matter how
many questions are hammered into us, we are able to face them That's called authorising the dealer to give the video, to give the Knowledge.
Guru Ji, is the truth that you are giving the same truth that was given by people like Christ?
This truth was revealed by Christ, by Buddha and by Krishna. All the Perfect Saints have beenrevealing this truth. It is nothing new. The Aquarian Gospel was written before I was born, and I think even before my Father was born, who was my Guru and who gave me this Knowledge: But I see that the way described in the Aquarian Gospel is still the same way now. It's not new, it's the most ancient thing. It was even before day was created, before night was created, before darkness was created, beforeanything was created. I think most people now believe in the theory of evolution, and even before evolution it was there. Alright, evolution took place slowly, it was not like a bomb Which came out of a gun and – pow!!! everything was there. It happened slowly and slowly, according to those people who believe in the theory of evolution. But all the action was being done by an actor. Without the actor there can be no action, can there? So who was that actor? That was this power, the source which is making us act today also. We think that our brain is making us act, but no! When that power goes away, does our dead body continue to act? Does a dead body act? No. That power was making us act. And this Knowledge is there at that time before the world, before the planets were created and because of this Knowledge all the actions took place and the theory of evolution took place too.
If the truth was there inthe beginning,
how did we lose it in the first place?
It's not that we lost it, it's just that we became frustrated. You know it's there, it's just the frustration of not being able to hold it.
I know about the frustration, but I can't see how anybody who had the truth could lose it, or let it slip.
We never lose it. The truth is always inside us, we just forget about it. See this block. We are standing on this side of it. One moment ago, we were standing on that side of the block, and we forgot the way back. We say, "Oh I'm standing here, how can I get to the other side?" That's it. Simple! Then a man comes, a guide comes, and says, "Alright, come here, come with me", and He takes me. Then we are there. Nothing to it. We just forgot about it, see? Because when we came into this world we think it is so fantastic – all the plants growing, all the different flowers growing, this growing and that growing, this taking place, that taking place, the cars running, the helicopters landing, the planes flying and everything. All this you see. You say, "Wow! What is this!" And we get lost. Instead of remembering that Knowledge, we start remembering how the plane flew last night. We get lost in that. Guru says, "All right, that's it," and brings us back to the place where we really are. Nothing really extraordinary.
I would like to link up with what this gentleman said about the one Perfect Master. Can there only be one Perfect Master in one period of time, according to your beliefs or opinions?
There is one thing that is passing by, and that is Light. Perfect Light passes from one body to another. It changes body but it doesn't change Itself. And when it is Perfect it is going to be One, not two at a time.
Is perfect only one?
One at a time. That means the thing is the same but the body changes. Alright?
By perfect you mean whole?
Yes. But you should know it. At the moment you don't understand perfect. When you said "perfect" you made a round shape with your hands, but do you think perfect is round?
I don't know, I think …
First know what is perfect. Know the perfect and you will realize everything, and once you realize everything, you know, it's done, that's it, it's alright. It's the same at school. When we are in the fifth class or maybe the sixth class, the master teaches us science, he teaches us really hard that this is this and that is that and this is this theory and that is that theory. And it was the same with me too, you know. When he was teaching me Archimedes principle I never understood it. But then he took me into the lab and he did it and then I understood it. So now, at the moment, many people are just imagining what is perfect, what is the shape of the perfect. Some people think it's like a lotus, some people think it's round, some people think it's square, some people think it's triangular. But that's just what people are thinking. On the back of the American dollar there is a triangle with a light. Do you think that is perfect? People are just thinking. But what is really perfect, that is known by one who has realized. So realize it and then all the theory, all the philosophy, everything you will understand. Know it and then you will see who people really are, alright? Now you are all talking in terms of the body, because the body automatically comes into your sight. And when you think about a person you think about the body of that person. But realize perfection and then you will understand what it really is, right? Let's just see what happens after that. I can't tell you the whole thing about what happens because it can't be put into words. People think I am making a simple excuse, but not trues Nobody can put it into words because the perfect thing is infinite, isn't it? Maybe the Ramayana is so thick, maybe the Bible is so thick. Such a great number of books there are, and such a great number of pages. But they have all got a beginning and an end, they are all finite. So all the pages and all the books still can't describe it because it is infinite. No end to it. So know it and then you will understand.
But can't perfection manifest in more than two forms at one time?
If perfection came physically as two bodies, then two bodies would have to be combined together with the perfect thing lying between them. Perfect is one. It has to come as one, not two. Infinity can't be divided. There is no end to it. There can be no end to it. So it can't be divided, can it? If you say it is infinite and then you say why can't it take two bodies, three bodies or ten thousand bodies, then you are contradicting yourself. That's your confusion.
Guru Maharaj Ji, if this is the material plane, where within us is the God realm, and what space does it occupy?
If I want a bird's eye look at this house, a bird's eye view of this house, if I am standing outside, can I see it? Can I see the top of thi house? No. But if I rise a little bit a d rise a little bit until I reach a limit where my eye level reaches the top of this house, then. As soon as I rise up, see, this is the top of the house, and I am standing here, right? And I am rising up. I can't see the top, I can't see the top, no, no, no … yes! Nov I've passed above the limit and I can see clearly. There is a limit, cross it and inside there is God, inside there is everything. Cross the limit of your understanding and you will see.
And what is there to see, then?
What do you want? If the master gives you a question paper and you say to him, "I have a question," and he says, "What is that?" and you say, "How am I going to solve all these problems? Please give me the answers," the master is not going to give you the answers, is he? If he gives you a question paper and the question is, "When was Akbar born?" then the master says, "Any question, ask," and then you stand up and say, "When was Akbar born?", the same question that was written in the question paper, he is not going to answer that question, is he? O.K? Is he?
Guru Maharaj Ji, I have been going to another master and I would like to know …
He has told you before when Akbar was born, hasn't he? But is he going to tell you now at the question time? Is he? Simple. He says, "No." He is not going to answer the question, "When was Akbar born" at the question time, at the examination time, is he? Is he? I'll tell you. Suppose there is a master who has taught for maybe one year and now he is giving the exam for the end of the year. It is in December, suppose, when you have to leave the ninth class and go into the tenth. And there is a question in the exam, "When was Akbar born?" And then he asks you if you have any questions to ask about the paper, because there are some misprints in the paper and maybe you won't understand. See? And you ask, "When was Akbar born?" He is not going to give you the answer. It's that simple. It's that simple, he has told you before, so he is not going to tell you now, at the time of the examination. That's what I want to tell you, that there is a limit which you must go above. I think I have told you in satsang. Have you heard any sat-sang? Have you heard any discourse? I have told you before that if you just ask, "Who is God? Where does He live? Where is He?" I am not going to answer all these questions for you or anyone else because you have to know it practically, you have to do it, you have to solve it for yourself. Theory won't work. God is not theory, God is practical. You can only understand Him practically. I have given you so many answers, but you are not satisfied. Still there are questions in those people to whom I have already given answers. God is something practical and the practical thing you cannot realize in theory. Theory is theory, theory is just a representation, it is imperfect. Anyone who has not taken this Knowledge gets surprised or maybe excited or maybe confused when he hears about it. "What is this?" he says. He has got to be confused, because he doesn't know what it is. But if he asks me and I show him, then his confusion disappears. It's that simple. People whose minds are always working, whose minds are always active, always want to ask questions – think, think, think, think, think. If someone asks you, "Where did yesterday go?" What answer are you going to give? Where did yesterday go? It was a whole twelve hours and where can twelve hours disappear to? I saw light yesterday and heard sound yesterday and many things happened, so how can it disappear? Where has yesterday gone? If you ask questions like this you are not going to get answers. You are only going to get confused. You might think, "Oh, this man is not clever enough to give us an answer." But the Knowledge is a practical thing, it's really practical. It cannot be realized in theory. If theory was enough, why do we make so many science labs? Big jumbo science labs with all the students doing chemistry and physics and so many things? Why does a doctor have to dissect frogs and dissect lizards and dissect dead bodies? Why? Theory's alright but you have to do the practical thing.
We say proof of the pudding is in the eating and that's what you mean the whole time.
Yes, but to make people understand I have to say it many, many, many times because, let's say one hundred people are here. Maybe one is listening to me, the other ninety-nine are thinking of something else. So when I say it one hundred times then everyone will have heard me. That's why I use many different examples because people can't even understand simple things. The master has to go through them many times.
But with Europeans, conceptionalisation is the highest aim and it's very difficult to get into the Indian monastic thinking.
But, you see, because you think it's an Indian belief, for you it becomes an Indian belief. I'll tell you
one thing. I'm talking in terms of the Knowledge, I'm not talking in terms of anything Indian. When the Indian press people ask me, "Are you Hindu?" I said they are talking about my body but I am talking about the soul and the soul is not Christian or Hindu or any particular thing. See? So I have realized soul and when I talk to you in terms of soul I am talking of the perfect pure thing. Other people think it is the other way round. They think I am talking of the body but I am not talking in terms of body. People have given priority to the body, but now a thing that is real must be given priority, and that's Knowledge.
Guru Maharaj Ji, the question arises, is there any reason why Perfect Masters should always come from the east and not the west?
First of all, you have made a mistake because you said "perfect masters".
Yes, I mean the Perfect Master.
Alright. Now, when you think it's east, it is east. But He is not arising from the east, He is arising from the world. When people started travelling they found they had a great difficulty, so what they did is they made a compass – north, south, east and west. But before this, where did the Perfect Master come from? There was no east, west, south or north at that time, was there? That's all artificial, we only think like that today because of the compass.
But they do come from a particular region of the world.
No, they don't. It is in your mind. You are thinking of east, west, north and south and of particular regions. No. The Master doesn't come like that, He comes from God, you know. He is given His ability from God, not from His mother. Don't think that it's Indian women who have any great ability so that their sons become spiritual masters. No, that's not it. The Perfect Master gets His inspiration from God. The Perfect Master has got no secularism – this religion, that religion, this place, that place. The Perfect Master has come from India and He has come from England too, and from the Middle East. You shouldn't want to see from where He has come. We are not immigration officers who want to check the passports and say, "Oh, He is Indian, He has no visa, He cannot enter." We should see the Knowledge. We do not want to see where the Master was born. It's so simple, you see, but it's just that we are so confused and do not understand. Why do you want the Master? What will make you believe in Him? You are not going to ask to see His passport, are you? "Oh yes, He has come from India," and then believe. If His passport says He has come from
India, then that's alright, then He is the Master. Otherwise, He is not the Master. You are going to test Him through the Knowledge, wherever He comes from. If you are thinking of regions, then that's just subtle ideas in your mind. If you are thinking which region He is from, alright, how can you change it anyway? He just prefers to come that way. He isn't taking your advice about whether He comes from the East or the West. Wherever He comes from it is His will. If He drops out of the North Pole and comes down from there, it is still His will. If He selects India, very good. But His Knowledge is not for India. His Knowledge is for everyone. Christ came from the Middle East and went into India to spread the Holy Gospel. Why am I here? Because the Knowledge is not for regions, it is for the whole world. It's not that God's secretary has created the West and God Himself has created the East. No, that's not it. God has created the whole thing. So why don't we open our eyes? Even in India they say, "Vasu dev kutum kam" – the whole world is the family. So, if the whole world is ours, if the whole world is our family, then why should I have these subtle ideas about east, west, north and south? If we want to take this Knowledge, then it doesn't matter from where He comes. If the Perfect Master thinks – and of course we can't realize what the Perfect Master thinks – but if He thinks that he will take birth in India, we Indian people should be fortunate enough to take full privilege of it, not to criticise Him but to fall on His Lotus Feet, really do satsang and pranam and understand Him. Lay flat on His Feet and say, "Alright, I surrender myself to you." We shouldn't be proud. This is an opportunity that God has given us and we should take full privilege of it. We should realize this Knowledge and not be proud, saying, "God comes from the East and I am Eastern," and all that. He gives full privilege to everyone. If He comes from the East we must still take the privilege. From childhood till old age. Understand?
Guru Maharaj Ji, have there ever been any women Perfect Masters?
Very good question, but I don't understand it because you are limiting Masters in their bodies.
It's just that all the famous Perfect Masters have always been men.
What do you mean "a famous Perfect Master"? You see, God gives women a great thing, because He takes birth from women. And to equalise this He comes in the human frame of a man, and that's what we don't understand. But in my heart, personally I have great respect for women because even God has to come through a woman. So He mustn't favour women more, He comes through a woman but takes a man's body. You see? He equalises! Understand? Now women mustn't be proud of this and shouldn't waste their time just being proud of it. They must take the privilege of it. But people do get proud – they take the Rolls and put it on a turn-table, on a glass piece, and stand and look at it. "Oh, I've got a Rolls," and never drive it. After some time it becomes junk and it is finished.
Guru Maharaj Ji, is realizing this Divine Light, what you call taking Knowledge?
So is it possible to realize the Divine Light only through the teachings of the Divine Light Mission?
No. We have to realize the Knowledge from wherever we can get it. Even if an old piece of iron can give us the Knowledge, we should take the Knowledge from it. Because we want to see God, we want to receive the Knowledge. If we want to drink water, wherever it comes from, we will drink it. Whether it comes from a refrigerator, a hand pump, a tap, a river, the lake, the sea, we want water. If an apple is going to give us the Knowledge, then we should surrender before the apple! Do not think of the body of the Master; it is the power that we surrender to, not the body. The power is making the Knowledge come from the apple, that's why we surrender to the apple.
Guru Maharaj Ji, is it possible then to receive Knowledge from a Master who is not in the flesh?
No it's not, because only a Master who is in the flesh can answer every question that you have in your mind and can help you socially and as a human being and in every way. Alright?
So it is not possible to have direct communication?
If something comes, if a power comes – right? – and starts acting on me, starts giving me the Knowledge, I'll say, "Oh, what is this acting on me?" And I'll get worried, I'll probably scream, "Oh, what is this acting on me?" But if it is something in human flesh, first He gives me an introduction and explains to me the philosophy, the theory of it, then He will reveal to me the practical, alright?
Yea, you believe it safeguards us, it saves us getting an electric shock.
If we start getting an electric shock from the wall, that's really going to shock us. We'll say, "Oh, what is this?" But if we get an electric shock from the wires, we don't get so surprised, we don't get so afraid, because there has to be current in the electric wires, hasn't there? If the current comes through the wall, we'll get really crazy, won't we? We'll start calling people and saying, "Hey, the electric current's coming through the wall." But when it comes through the wire, we don't say, "Hey, the current is coming through the wire," because it has to be there. I n the same way the Knowledge has to come through a Master who is in a body. If it just jumps out of the air, we're going to freak out. Alright!
The Gateway to Heaven
Satsang of Shri Guru Maharaj Ji, St. Peters Church Hall, 28th May, 1972
You know that I have been to South Africa so I am going to tell you something about it, what has been happening there. See, when i arrived in South Africa there was a very beautiful reception and it was like this. Before the sun rises and as the darkness is going away, many colours are formed. One is black, that's in the middle of the sky. Then there is a bit that is blueish, and then there is a bit that is light blueish, and then there is a bit that is reddish. But when the sun has risen into the full sky, then there are no colours. There is only the bright sun shining in the sky. Before the sun rises there are so many colours.
When I got to South Africa, there were many things going on. Many rumours were going around. They were saying, "No, He is not going to come any more," or "He is not going to do this," or "He is not going to do that." But ultimately when I finally reached there and people heard the satsang then all the rumours were taken away. This is only by the Knowledge.
There are so many religions in the world, and they are so old. But still they have not been able to bring peace to the world. Why? There is only one religion, yet each religion claims to be true. Take any religion. They all claim to be ancient. Then why are they not bringing peace? Peace is also ancient. Only if they give you the Knowledge, only then can peace come. If you need water, I can give you so many other drinks but still you will need water. There are so many drinks. You can drink Pepsi-Cola, and Fanta, and so many others, but in spite of this you need water, you need this Knowledge. Now before you were born you were drinking water. Before this scientific age came about, before this age came when everything is so precise, when
everything is so technological, before this age came, before four hundred years or before a thousand years, people were drinking water. And after this age has passed, after a hundred years, or maybe after two hundred years, that age may be more precise, people may be more technological, but still to quench their thirst they will need water. There are so many drinks which are very tasty, but more than them you need water, and that is tasteless. There is nothing that you can taste in water, water has got something of its own, something that is original, something that is very important. That's why, besides so many sweet and sour drinks, so many tasty drinks, you need that drink also. You must understand this, that all those other drinks have been created using that water. If the water hadn't been there, there wouldn't have been any other drinks.
Today we are following Jesus Christ, today we are following Ram, today we are following Lord Buddha. But we must understand why they came into the world. What was their purpose? Their purpose was not only to be crucified, so that we can say He was born on the 13th and then He was crucified on the 14th. No, that was not His purpose. But He did something, He did a job. He taught something to humanity and because of the job He did, when He completed it, He was crucified and today we pray to Him. There are so many Rams in India. There are so many people who have been named after Lord Rama, but we don't go and pray to them, we don't go and bow our heads to them. But what is the particular thing about Lord Rama that we should pray to Him? We pray to Him, alright. But why? And there is no answer to this question. So the only conclusion I can make is that the world is going like a sheep. If one sheep falls into a dump, or into hell, then all the sheep will fall into that dump. No-one asks, "Where are we going? Oh, that's fine, if we are going there, go straight ahead." That's the condition of the world today. Where one is going, everyone else is following him without asking any question. One is falling into hell and everyone is trying to fall into hell. Today we spend six hours or eight hours in our offices. That's fine. You must do some job, otherwise you are not going to get any money, and if you don't get any money, how are you going to survive and get shelter? Particularly in England, because if you sleep outside you are going to be a frozen piece of ice in the morning, or even a dead body. So there must be an important reason why you work eight hours a day, because time is very precious. Why do we earn? The answer is very simple. We earn because we need some money. And why must we have some money? Much of it, of course, you waste in luxury, but most of it is spent on food. And then what do we make of food? Just waste matter. Now is this the human cycle? If this is all, then why do we say the human frame is precious? Why do we respect holy and sacred things? Why were all the scriptures and sacred books written?
Even the scientists say that this human frame is the most supreme of all bodies, all creations. So why is it supreme? Is it to sit eight hours in the office and get some money, and then make it into waste matter? Is that why it is supreme? No, that's not the reason. It is supreme because there is a particular purpose behind it.
What are we seeing when we look at the wall? Actually nobody can see the wall. What we are seeing is the colour. We are seeing the colour of the wall. It is white, it is blue, it is green, it is red. But there are some other things like bricks which have all composed together to form a particular shape and this shape is called the wall. And those planks of wood, they have formed a particular shape, and that is called the roof. And then these planks and tiles on the floor have formed together into such a thing that is known as a floor. They are the shapes.
Now, today, human man is recognised by his works. They have given him the shape, but there is something behind them which is very important. There were two parrots who belonged to a man and one day he left them in the jungle. And they had two babies, these two parrots, and one day the wind blew really strong. And one baby was blown into a saint's hut, and the other was blown among some robbers.
Well, one day, a king was passing by, and he went to the robbers house to ask for some water. And when the parrot saw him it started crying, "Get out, you measly old fellow, get out!" And then the parrot said, "Come on, come on boys, king has come, a king has come, come and rob him, come and rob him." The king immediately started running away and he ran and he ran and he ran until he reached the sage's hut. And as soon as he entered the but he saw the parrot, and he thought it would also say the same thing. But this parrot said, "Oh king, you are most welcome in this sacred hut. Please make yourself comfortable. The mahatma has just gone out. He will be coming back in a minute and he will give you whatever you need." The king was very surprised. When Mahatma J i came in, the king asked the parrot, "Parrot, can you tell me why there should be this difference between you and the parrot that looks just like you in the robber's hut?" The parrot re-
plied, "We are both brothers. But I have been brought up in a sage's house, and he has been brought up in a robbers house. Because of this such a difference has been created."
Now, this is why, in spite of so many religions existing in the world, nobody can teach the basic truth behind religions, the basic idea of religion. They are teaching us the outlines, but nobody can teach us the basic idea, and you must know the basic idea. Once you have a basic idea then you can form an outline. But you can never form a basic idea from an outline. That's why all outlines are differing from one man to another. We have been taught many sorts of beliefs. In Christianity we find the cross. In Hinduism you will find the sign of the swastika, and so on. But what is the basic idea behind them? The scriptures tell us that Lord Ram came, Lord Christ came, Lord Krishna came, Lord Nanak came. But what was the basic idea for these people to come into the world? It was to reveal the Knowledge. And today, instead of following their teaching, we have started doing so many other things. They came into the world to spread this Knowledge, and instead of realizing this Knowledge we have formed from their outline something else behind them. The basic idea was the same, but we do not see this. And that's why many fights take place which ultimately turn into religious fights. Hitler was fighting against the Jews. The fighting in Bangla Desh was a religious fight. But why? Religion is not meant for fighting. Religion is meant for peace. What is the meaning of religion? Today people think it means small sects. No, it doesn't mean this. Religion started from the word realization, and realization of God is the true religion. That's why, when God comes, He wipes out all the religions and forms one religion, the true religion.
And so, only by this Knowledge will we be able to realize God. Only by this Knowledge will we be able to realize the true religion, because this Knowledge is the realization of God, and God is the true religion. Through this Knowledge we have realization of God, so that's why this Knowledge is the true religion.
This Knowledge does not bind us, it does not bind us into a small sect. No. It is like this. Maybe some people are vegetarian and some people are unvegetarian, non-vegetarian. But that does not matter. They both eat with the same mouth. Non-vegetarians do not eat with their ears. And vegetarians don't eat with their noses. They eat with the same mouth. God has made us all common, but still we have dif ferent ideas. There is no-one to teach us this basic idea that we are one in all. There is no-one and that's why there have been so many fights, and so much dissatisfaction.
Actually the scriptures and the religions were only brought out to bring satisfaction into living. But today I think they are the most popular cause of dissatisfaction among the people. In India, if a Muslim and a Hindu are in business they both have to be friends and walk together, but otherwise Muslims believe that he who is not a Muslim disobeys God and must be killed. So many people have been killed because of this. It is the fault of the religion. Scriptures can't give the basic idea. Before Christ came, there was the Old Testament. Before Ram came, there was the Ramayana. There have been all these scriptures. But they couldn't help because this
basic idea can only be touched by the Knowledge which is not theory, it is very practical.
And so for practical realization we need a practical Master. And this practical Master will reveal to us this Knowledge which you who have received it already know. And people who haven't received it don't know what I am talking about. It is a very easy thing. It is the easiest thing. It is internal, eternal, universal, something that everyone can practise.
In South Africa, African people have received this Knowledge. Indian people have received this Knowledge. European people have received this Knowledge. Africaan people have received this Knowledge. Everyone, every community, has received this Knowledge. And I had no meetings there where Europeans and Indians were separated. All the meetings I had were mixed meetings. And everything was so beautiful there, so perfect that they are calling me back again. I must go back again to South Africa. There is so much love in these people, so much powerful love that it is unbelievable. And in such a short time, approximately four hundred people received the Knowledge, Europeans and Indians. Slowly people are realizing, so that's why I had to leave Mahatma Ji there, because there were so many people asking for Knowledge. It is a bit hard for South Africans to understand because there is so much materialism there, but of course it is not just in South Africa, it is in the whole World that the problem has become materialism. We have had two thousand years of civilisation. One thousand years you ascend and the other thousand years descend. Now what are we doing, ascending or descending? According to scientists we are ascending. What do you think?
So understand. Suppose you are sitting in your room and there are no windows. Suppose this room is located in a ship that is sailing. Now, you don't know where you are, you don't know in which direction you are going, you don't even know whether your ship is being sunk or just floating on the surface of the water. Now this ignorance is not an excuse that God will accept. You cannot say, "I never knew that." Why? You should know what your situation is. It is your responsibility. It is the same thing with your soul. It is the nearest thing to you, and yet you never know it. You just need a mirror, and getting a mirror is no problem. See, the retina is the nearest part to us. Without the retina we can see nothing. But we can't see it, can we? Can we see our retina? But immediately we get a mirror, then we can see it. In the same way, Knowledge is within us, God is within us, we just need a mirror to be able to see our own reflection. And what are we? We are really not this human frame which we possess. What we really are is something internal. It is something we survive on. Why are we surviving? Maybe because blood is circulating in our body. But why is blood circulating? Because the heart is pumping. Why is the heart pumping? Because the lungs are operating. But why are the lungs operating? Because we are breathing. But who is making us breathe?
At the time of deep sleep, when a man is not aware who is walking into his house and stealing his things, his mouth is open and saliva is falling and he never even knows that he is talking while he is sleeping. And some people have got this disease where they just get out of their beds, still sleeping, and start walking. They are in the dream state, where they don't know what feelings they have, what they are, who they are. They don't know any of this. Even in this state you are breathing. Now, what is that power that is making you breathe? Go and realize it. If I just go to the bank of the river, or the sea, say, and start looking for pearls, of course I will not find them. But if I dive in I will get some. I am bound to get some. Why? Because I have dived, because I have reached the depth. And that's where it is. If there is real gold down there it is going to be very heavy. And if it is very heavy it is going to sink down and down and down. That's why you've got to go deep if you want to find it. If this Knowledge is true, it's got to be heavy and it's going to be right at the depth. And only the man who can jump into the water and reach the depth can understand this Knowledge. Otherwise you are like wallflowers in the world, and you can never understand it. Many people swim but only those who dive get the pearls.
And if you want to dive and go really deep, you must have this heavy belt, and this is the belt of grace. When you tie this around you it makes you really heavy. It makes you go faster and deeper and more still. This is the belt of grace. People who haven't got it try their best but they can't reach the depth of the water, they just float. Grace makes you heavy so that you can go down and down and down. Just getting the book is not the important thing. Opening the pages and starting to read is the important thing.
So what I want to explain to you is that we have got this far out Knowledge which is being spread everywhere, in every corner of the world. And it's your duty to meditate on it.
Well, of course, everybody knows that. Everyone who has received Knowledge knows that this is their duty, but it is a question of who understands this? Knowing is not a problem. The thing is that you should understand it. Otherwise you are like students who, instead of working out the sum, go and learn the answer off by heart. And when they start working out the sum at the back of the class they get 8, and the answer should be 9. So they have to take one out from somewhere in the rest of the sum and put to the answer to make 9. And the teacher gets puzzled, and wonders where he has taken one from. And it's from dreamland, that's where he's taken one out from. And the teacher rejects the whole thing. But the student who knows the method, even if his answer is wrong, he'll get marks on it. It doesn't matter if the answer is wrong, because at lease he knows the basic idea. And that is the important thing.
That's why people who have got no religion but who have received the Knowledge have got peace of mind, and people who have got a religion but who haven't got the Knowledge haven't got peace of mind. That's why we can't get peace of mind by materialism. If we can, then why don't some rich and powerful people have peace of mind? But that's not the point. The point is to receive the Knowledge.
So now I am here, and I am here for a very, very short time. I am leaving for America and as soon as I return from America I am going back. So I will arrange for you all to come and visit me at Woodside Avenue, and if you have any questions you can ask me then. And I hope that you will meditate on this Knowledge, because if you don't eat the food, you will not be satisfied. Only by eating the food is your hunger satisfied. So do you understand what I want to say? It's not only the words that I want to say, it is the feeling that I want to express. But love just becomes a joke for people. They live together today and then on the second day they divorce. But they don't realize that there is a love through which a man is secured. If this love is taken away, everyone will be killed, nobody will survive in the world. There will only be dead bodies and graveyards instead of houses. And I don't think there will even be anyone to look after the graveyards.
But there is something that is making us survive, isn't there? And it is not only the breath. Of course we have got the breath, but still people are dying. George Wallace was shot. And if this love is taken away from someone, he can shoot, he can kill a man. So just imagine, if this Word, this love, this internal love, is taken away from everyone, then everyone is going to die. People don't realize this internal love and this is why all this dissatisfaction is going on.
So I just want to give you a feeling of how important is this Knowledge which we have received. And people who are fortunate enough to realize this feeling of mind receive the full privilege of understanding it, and they respond to it as they should. They receive it, they attain it, and they get the full grasp of it. Otherwise people just float on the surface of the water and gain nothing. Alright. Thank you very much, and may God bless you all.
Divine Light, Volume 1, Number 12
Some people who have not properly realized the Truth think that by taking the Knowledge of Guru Maharaj Ji their enjoyment of the world will in some way be impaired. This is very misguided thinking, for the Divine Knowledge, far from decreasing one's enjoyment, increases it to a level where it is total, and not partial, as was previously the case.
It was previously the case because, if one's happiness had been total before one took the Knowledge, then one would never have come to the Divine Light Mission, for Guru Maharaj Ji says time and time again that the only thing He can give is total happiness – a happiness that cannot be exceeded and which can never be broken. Somebody who already has this naturally will not feel the least reason to go to a person who is offering it. In fact, somebody who already has this complete and eternal happiness, which has as one of its qualities such an unbreakability that even physical death can never affect it, will Himself be called Satguru, which means precisely this – that He has mastered the subject of infinite happiness and eternal Truth. And, just as we can make other people masters of whatever subject we are masters of, whether it be nuclear physics or baking bread, so can He show other people how to attain the peace that passes understanding, the bliss that passes comprehension. He Himself embodies that thing of which He is the master and which He is imparting, in the same way that we are the living representative of that state of mind in which we are at any one time. With our states of mind however, there is constant fluctuation, since we do not possess self-contained and perfect balance and are therefore dependent for our happiness or sadness on those things that are going on around us. We can therefore be said to be the incarnation of fluctuation, whereas the Satguru is by definition absolutely constant and stable, always one hundred per cent blissful, and can therefore be called the incarnation of perfect equipoise, which means perfect peace. Perfect peace is sometimes called God, so He can with equal accuracy be called the incarnation of God.
What the Satguru, who is known at this time as Guru Maharaj Ji, is able to give is Knowledge of God, or perfect happiness. This means that, whatever befalls one, one's happiness is completely undisturbed. Jesus set the example of how to experience physical death yet remain in perfect bliss, and thousands of Christian martyrs enjoyed their deaths in a like fashion. Yet most people today complain if a small piece of bad fortune comes their way, and are made most miserable if a more serious calamity such as the loss of sight or the use of a limb happens to them. In fact, they experience unhappiness in exact proportion to the joy they got from that limb or that sensual faculty. And, unless we get our happiness from that thing which cannot die and which is eternal, then we all, athlete or cripple, businessman or priest, get an equal amount of pleasure from one thing – the possession of our bodies, minds and those things, people and experiences we have accumulated because of their possession. Hence, just as all our happiness, all our peace, all our well-being, depends on our sensation of physical life, then when that physical life leaves us, as it inevitably must, then our unhappiness, our agony, our regret, our misery, will also be total! The balance is always perfect.
So the only way to enjoy total happiness, a happiness that is not made partial or non-existent by the changes in external fortunes, is to know that thing which is not physical and therefore is not subject to death, decline and decay. And it is this that Guru Maharaj Ji can show. In the scriptures it is called the Word of God.
Knowing this, one is really happy. One will not have to go somewhere or do something to get greater happiness except enter further into the well of infinite happiness. This is why the true disciple of Guru Maharaj Ji will not look for a physical vacation as most people do because of an unhappy or tedious routine. The premies of Guru Maharaj Ji are never unhappy. They have found such a routine that is perennially sweet, perennially happy, perennially new. Every morning is a new morning! Every moment is a new moment! They have the real secret of happiness and hence know how to enjoy life totally. Whatever the world brings, they remain unaffected. If they are in the mountains with crisp air and fine views, they are blissful. If they are in the city with smog and fumes, they are blissful. If they are with their friends in comfortable chairs, they are blissful. If their bodies are dying in a lonely desert, they are blissful. All is blissful for the disciple of Guru Maharaj Ji, for he is living constantly with Word, the source of life, the source of happiness, the source of peace. Word is not fickle. It never changes or leaves, as external physical things do. This is the real happiness, this is the real life. To let us know this secret of constant bliss Jesus came, the Buddha came, and now Guru Maharaj Ji has come. Life is with Guru Maharaj Ji! Total joy is surrender before His Divine and Perfect Lotus Feet!
The Real Direction
Shri Guru Maharaj Ji at Acton Town Hall, 30th August, 1972
Well, we don't have a long time, and all I want to say is that after getting a glass of water our aim is not to find water but to drink it. Onc a man comes into this hall his aim is not to come in again but his aim is now to get out of the hall. In the same way, once we receive this Knowledge our aim is not to find this Knowledge any more but to meditate on it.
You see, there are three levels, there are three frequencies of thinking. One is an ordinary level, on which an ordinary human being thinks. One is the frequency on which fully realized souls think, and one is the frequency on which devils think. So we must understand what level we are on, because not knowing this is actually why the world has gone wrong today. It is as if a man is driving an aeroplane and he is the only pilot sitting in the cockpit, he is the only one who knows how to drive. But at the same time as he is sitting in the cockpit driving, he is also trying to control the navigation. He is trying to look at the map to find out the real direction he wants to go in. So he leaves the steering wheel, and this automatically diverts the plane downwards because there is gravitational pull. And then there comes a time when it is too late for the pilot to control the aeroplane any more and it crashes. The same thing has gone wrong with us. We are supposedly operating on the very highest frequency of our thinking level. Then suddenly we stop it, we slow down, we divert our attention and we just let it run. Our main aim, our main destination, is diverted to different places.
When a child is very small, he doesn't know what to do. Really, a small child doesn't have any plans be-
cause he doesn't know what plans are. He doesn't know what he can do. He doesn't know his ability. He doesn't know anything. Then he gets bigger and he has to learn something because he doesn't know how to walk or speak, and he feels there are some things he can talk about. Still he can't understand you very much, but suddenly he grows bigger and you send the boy to school. He starts studying and so many things start happening. Then the boy comes to the age of say thirteen or fourteen and he starts making plans. "Now what have to do? What must do? Where should I direct my life? What should I do?" So many, many things. Then again another change comes, a complete change, and now he has to make a full decision because, in his early age, he was just thinking about what to do, but now he has to do what he was thinking. So now he has to stick to something and complete it. He must complete his work, he has to become a professor or a scientist or an engineer or whatever he has to become it.
And then there are so many other things, so many side effects, going on in the world. Some people do go and try to seek truth. But what happens is that they are driving their vehicles at 90 miles an hour, and because they are driving so fast they must keep in the fast lane. And this is far away from the exit. Because they are driving so fast they can't go into the near-side lane, because that is too slow. They'll hit something. So they must stay in the fast lane and that's all the way across the road from the exit. So when the exit comes there is so much traffic that they can't get across to the other side, and they simply miss it. So this is what happens. You've raced up to 90 miles an hour to gain one hour, and then it takes you one hour extra to take the next exit to go back and get on the right road!
The same thing is going on today. First of all, people were in search of God, and then Martin Luthur and other people came, and so many other things came about. And then suddenly in 1968 or something like that came the hippies. And they started taking LSD and drugs and they all just freaked out. Then they said, "Oh, LSD is pretty expensive to buy and it's illegal too", so they started making it right in their homes! But these are not the ways to find God and we are ourselves being deluded because God is inside us and cannot be realized, our consciousness cannot be raised, by taking tablets. We must understand this. Because consciousness works on such a level that no bodily effect can touch it. This is common sense and we should understand it but unfortunately common sense is very uncommon. So people don't understand that tablets only effect our body. Because they are external they only affect external things, and consciousness is internal, so they cannot affect our consciousness. To reach our consciousness, we have to get onto a particular frequency. With some walkie-talkies you can listen to the police, you can hear them transmitting messages, but we cannot speak to them. If you want to speak to them you must get onto their frequency. In the same way, if you have a boil, a doctor can cut it from outside, but if your boil is within the doctor cannot cut it from outside. He has to take his scissors and his operating instruments and then he has to dissect you.
So what is the method through which we can reach our inner consciousness and which will put us onto
that higher level so that we can talk to God, so that we can relate to God, so that we can understand who God is? There are two channels, UHF and VHF. Ultra High Frequency and Very High Frequency. Now the channels that operate on VHF do not catch the Ultra High Frequencies. To get those you must set your television to UHF, right? That's a common thing.There are two channels in your television. In the same way all external things are only on Very High Frequency and are limited. But our consciousness is on Ultra High Frequency and to approach this we need a tuner so that we can get the exact setting. And it must be a very exact setting. If it is little bit on this side we won't be able to catch it clearly. The setting has to be really exact, and then the sound and the channel and the vertical and the horizontal will then be automacally correct.
So this is the case with us. We are now receiving very high frequencies. These are our scriptures, our own methods that we apply to reach God. But now we have to put ourselves on ultra high frequencies to understand God, to relate to God because God lies on up. So, how do we get that frequency, how do we change our frequency ? Suppose our television doesn't have UHF and we want to receive those really good programmes that come on those channels, we must change our television set or we must take it back to the shop so that the engineer can put something in it and make it into ultra high frequency.
Who is the television engineer? It is Guru. And when we go to Him He mends it, He makes it work properly, He makes it tuned in. There are so many scriptures in the world. One scripture was written and it was not satisfactory so another scripture came out, and that was not satisfactory. So a third scripture came out, and that was not satisfactory, and a fourth scripture came out. I don't know exactly how many scriptures there are in the world because they are quite unlimited, and this is because man has been thinking and thinking and thinking. He began with a capital letter and ended on a full stop, but God does not start from a capital letter and end on a full stop.
So, to understand God, we have to go further. You see, when you first put a pen on the paper, the first thing that is created, the first thing that is formed is a point. It is one point. No matter what language you are writing, no matter what sketch you are drawing, no matter what diagram you are making. When you first put your pen on the paper, it makes one dot. If you lift it, you can see the dot is there, then from the dot the whole line is formed. And then, when you take your pen off again, there is another dot there. So, a dot is the beginning and a dot is the end, but what is a dot? We know a dot is the beginning and a dot is the end, but what is a dot? This dot has created doubt in us, and to solve the doubt of the dot, we search. We want to find the answer to our doubt about the dot, so if we don't get an appropriate teacher, we'll only have more confusion. So many people say, "Why did Jesus say this?" or "Why did Jesus say that?". "Why did Krishna say this?", "Why did Ram say that?" "Why did this person say that?" and "Why did that person say this?" You have to look beyond the dots for the answer to your doubts. And what is beyond dot? To understand this secret we receive the Knowledge. And what does this Knowledge do to us? It makes us into UHF. It's like Apollo. It lifts us up, it lifts us right up high so that if there is any problem inside us it will just take them away and we become really fantastic. And everything is far out then! Because now we can really flow. There are some aeroplanes that can only fly at 10,000 feet and if they try to fly over the Alps they are going to hit some of the things there, some of the mountains. If they want to cross the Alps, they must rise higher, and if they go high then oxygen masks will be needed because they are not pressurized aeroplanes.
So we also need to be pressurized and this means that we must do whatever we have been instructed to do. If a man drives his car daily and doesn't check the water and the oil and when the car begins to break down he doesn't take it to the company, he just drives it on. Let's say he has a Hunter, then he'll say he doesn't like it because it doesn't run for a long time.
But when he knew it was broken he should have taken it to the company, to the shop, from where he bought it and they should have serviced it. But he never did that. He never checked the water … he never checked the oil. He never did anything to the car, he just drove it. So after some time he will say, "The Hunter is a no-good car!" Then he takes another car and does the same thing with it. He says, "No good car."Then he takes a Rolls-Royce, and the same thing again, "No good car." Now whose fault is this? Is it Rolls-Royce's fault, or Hunter's fault? No, it is the man's own fault. He was not following the instructions he had been given, and instructions are the pressurization. So what are the instructions with this Knowledge? They are not to lubricate it. They are to meditate on it. And our meditation gets higher when we do service. There was a boy who was a doctor and his trousers were all patched; even though they were new trousers, they were all patched up. And I thought, this is a poor guy, he has got no car, he has got nothing. I said to him, "Now you must go to the satsang programme," and I saw him drive away in a Ford. I was amazed. I said, "This boy has got patches on his pants, and he's such a poor boy and yet he drives a Ford. It is a crazy thing." When he came to me the next time I said, "Well, you are so poor, you have got patches in your pants, and you drive a Ford." And he said, "No, Maharaj Ji, I put these patches on my pants because when I see them it makes me think I am poor. So ego doesn't come to me!" And I said, "Well, ha ha! You think that's a practical method to become humble, do you?"
So when we want to decrease our egos, what must we do? We must not patch our pants, we must become
servants. We must become God's servant; we have to be His servants, doing His service when He is there, and then everything gets taken care of. So when you are pressurized you can go onto very high altitudes, maybe 20,000, maybe 40,000, maybe 44,000 feet and when you get there, there are no bumps; it's perfectly O.K. When you fly at low altitude a building might come in the way, or a mountain, or you might meet an air pocket. But when you go onto a very high altitude, there are no air pockets, there are no mountains, just nothing you fly so smoothly.
So I might be leaving for America very soon, as a matter of fact I might be leaving tomorrow, but every time I come here I tell you one thing, and that is to meditate. Some might say I'm crazy, but I know I'm not because I know meditation is the only thing that can help you. There is nothing else. Money? No. There is nothing in the world that can help you. There is a song which says, "Oh man, why do you think you are proud? When you die your horses, your cows, your cattle, will remain where they are. All your wealth will remain where it is. And the nearest things to you, your brother or your wife, will only go to your funeral, and then they will leave you there. So why are you proud! Your wife is going to leave you, she is going to divorce you for ever and ever and ever. And your children are going to leave you for ever and ever and ever. Your brothers are going to leave you, your wealth is going to leave you, nothing is going to go with you, except one thing and that is you yourself and who you are. That is going to go with you, this Holy Word."
So realize this and get high into it, reach such an altitude that the plane cannot drop down from there. Cross the level of the horizon, cross the level where the earth's gravitational pull finishes. That gravitational pull is maya, illusion, and that will pull you down. You want to go high but you get pulled down. There are so many obligations but when you go, when you cross that level, it's so light, it's so beautiful, it's so perfect. I saw this movie about the astronauts going to the moon, and this boy was demonstrating how far out it was there. So he jumped from one point and he went flying just like this … to the other point. Then he jumped back again. And we can become so light in the same way. If that astronaut wasn't carrying any weights, he would have been floating. So we want to float, and we don't want to float on our lower consciousness, we want to float on a high consciousness.
How to get high? Never by external means. If we don't get the internal way and apply it there is nothing that can help us. If you like, you can experience, you can see -- and I can clearly see – that there is only one road, there is only one Divine path which you can put yourself into and you'll get directly taken there. Other things you try in order to gain peace in the world are like roller coasters. They take you up, they take you down. Bump, bump, bump! They take you this side, that side, this side and that side again. They bring you back and stop where they started. Just like a roller coaster. Takes you high, takes you low, takes you round, wherever the tracks lead, up and down, left and right, and then brings you back from where you started. Just like a roller coaster.
This is because you take so many things. There was once a boy who came to me in the ashram and he was very frustrated because he started this drugs system and felt that this was the ultimate thing to try. And he said, "I'm going to commit suicide now," and I said, "Why? What's the matter?" and he said, "I was trying to find peace and I couldn't even get peace from the highest thing in the world." So I said, "What is the highest thing in the world?" and he said, "LSD!" And I said, "No, you're wrong, you didn't try the right thing and that's why you weren't getting proper results. You were putting water into the petrol tank and that will never help you. You should find the most appropriate thing and try that." I don't know whether he's taken the Knowledge or not but he should have taken it.
This Knowledge is not interference with religion. It is the true religion. It is not a religion you believe in, like being a Hindu or a Christian or a Buddhist. What is religion? Religion is realization of God, that's true
religion – that through which we realize God. Everyone follows one religion or another, so why isn't everyone satisfied? Look at history, every war that started became a religious war. Hitler wanted to conquer the world, he did not want to conquer religion. But ultimately he had to come to the point where he said, "Kill the Jews", and his war became religious. And today it is somewhere else. Many kings came from the Middle East to conquer India and those wars became religious. So many religious wars, yet religions don't teach us to fight do they? They teach us to love. So the real religion is one that teaches us how to love. Why did Jesus come into the world? Jesus came into the world for a purpose, He accomplished that purpose and that purpose was more necessary than anything that existed at that time. There were priests at that time, weren't there? And they were the ones who inspired the King, the Pilate, to crucify Christ. They claimed to be the true ones, but were they the true ones? Jesus was standing there, and some people said, "Oh, we believe in Him. There is a prophesy that He will come and He is here." Other people said, "Oh, no, prophesy or not, I don't believe in him."
I can sit here and talk about prophesies. But prophesies are prophesies, and prophesies are indications for us. And if we stick on the prophesies, do you know what we are doing? We are driving our cars to Leicester and over the highway we see the sign saying Leicester and an arrow pointing down. And we go right under that and we stop our cars! The highway patrol comes and says, "Why have you stopped here?" And you say, "I want to go to Leicester and Leicester is right here. So I have stopped here."
Jesus said, "I am going to come. I am going to come through the clouds and in white." So many people talk about this and so many people expect Him in so many different says. I asked one guy, "In which continent will He land? America, Europe, Germany, Switzerland, India? He's not going to land on the ocean. He'll need to land on some land, so where is He going to land? What arrangements have you made to find Him out, to seek Him out? He might drop on an island you don't know about."
And this is the case with us. Instead of following the directions which say the Master is going to come, you are relaxing in your chairs. Get out of them and find Him, because there is going to be a True Master coming into this world. Otherwise you are doing a crazy thing, you are stopping your car under the sign that says Leicester.
It's so funny, really, to a man who understands, it really is funny. There's no doubt about it because we can see how crazy the whole world is. And all the saints say the world is really crazy. I have talked to many
educated people, many intellectual people and they say history is like a pendulum. It swings there and swings back. There are many saints who were ill-treated and crucified, and after them the same happened to others. Nobody learned the lesson that nobody knows in which form Goy is going to come. God is not going to be stamped on His head, with a stamp saying "This is God". He is not going to be stamped. You have to realize Him by His fruits, you have to realize Him by what He gives you, by what He tells you. When you go to a shop the man says, "This is the best tape recorder," and you buy it, right? No, you don't do that. You say, "Give me some literature," and you read the literature. Then you go to other shops and say, "Which is the best tape recorder?" and they tell you something else and so you read their literature. There is a graph, in all the brochures which tells you What all the controls are, it shows everything, and you yourself can compare the tape recorders, and after you have read them you say, "Alright, this is a better tape recorder than that one." So you should understand Him by His fruits, not by His face, not by His actions, not even by what He talks about. He might talk about things we do not understand.
People who believe in Jesus, ministers and people, come to me and discuss His teachings with me; they realize and understand that some of their talk about Jesus is wrong. They say, "Jesus is the son of God," and I say, "No, you are wrong," and they freak out! They freak out because that's what they have been teaching to the world. So I tell them to buy a Bible, and according to the Bible He is not the son of God, He is God. When He said He was the son of God He was crucified, so I don't know what they would have done with Him if He had said, "I am God!" So what the Bible says is this. The Word was made flesh, and the flesh was Jesus. And what was the Word? In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. The Word was God, the Word was made flesh and the flesh was Jesus. So Jesus was … God!
And in another place He goes into this temple and He is asked this question: "Who are you?" And He said, "I and my Father are one." He said, "Him who I claim to be my Father, I am. I and Him are both one. There is no differentiation." But people stick to grammar, people stick to literature, and they do not go into the reality, so they never get to the reality. If you eat one chapati, you are going to satisfy a one chapati hunger. If you eat two chapatis you are going to finish off a two chapati hunger. In the same way, how much you understand depends on how much you go into something.
You need a living Master, you need a living saint. Everyone realizes this, but everyone is too ashamed to believe it. Everyone is too lazy to go onto that higher level and find the living Master, so they just don't believe in Him. But you need living milk from the living cow. Or why don't you make a picture of a cow and get milk out of that? Why do you need a living source of water? Why don't you just say, "Oh, cow, please give me some milk," to the picture? If you want a living thing you can only get it from a living source, and if you want the living Knowledge you can only get it from the living Master. That is a fact. It is a question of therefore. We use therefore in geometry when we have to prove something. We need a living Master to get this living Knowledge. And that's a perfectly O.K. theorem, but you have to realize it.
This world is becoming crazy. Why? Because I say look inside yourself, I say don't look at me, I say look inside yourself, and they say, "You are anti-Christ." I say look within yourself and you will find God there, and they say, "You are anti-Christ." Even Jesus said, "Look inside yourself." It is because they themselves see within themselves the image of anti-Christ that they see everyone as anti-Christ. Within themselves they see illusion, within themselves they see darkness, so they think the whole world is in darkness.
If a baby is born and before the baby can see anything you put red glasses on his eyes, when he starts seeing the world, he is going to say the world is red, because that's what he has been seeing since he was born. Man was briginally in the Light, then he was lost. And then the Master always had to come. Why did the Master come into the world? And why will Jesus come? To guide us back into the Light. This means that we are in darkness, and while we are in darkness to judge anything is wrong, because we don't know what we are doing. So this is why I really feel the world is crazy.
Anyway, I have got this Knowledge. I meditate on it, I give it to you so that you can meditate on it. I get high and you can get high! If you like you can really dig this Knowledge because it is inside you. So if you want to go fast, you accelerate, not me. I am driving another car. O.K? You accelerate, you go fast; I accelerate, I go fast. My acceleration won't help you. Your acceleration won't help me. So meditate and the whole traffic will start moving much faster! Thank you very much.
The Eternal Flame
Satsang and answers of Shri Guru Maharaj Ji, Denver, Colorado, 3rd August, 1972
Everything in this world functions because of some power, and there are different types of power. They work in the same way, but some are nine volts, some are 12 volts, some are 24 volts. But there is one power that vibrates everywhere and this is the main thing in our life which we are searching for. But there are so many sects. Many Western people believe in Jesus, one thing, but besides believing in Jesus they then become Catholic and so many other things. The Eastern people believe in Ram, but still there are different ways of believing in Him. Or they believe in Krishna and they also believe in many different ways. They all talk about one God, but if one has understood who God is then everyone will believe in that one thing, that one conception, that one light, the one Divine Light. This one thing is very common, but it is very interesting
Take one scripture, the Bible. Now, John talks about this Word, "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God." Then take the Koran, and they talk about Pak Nam, the Holy Name. Then take the Gita, and Krishna talks about this Word. Then take the Ramayana and this also talks about the Word. Originally the Ramayana was written in Sanskrit even before Ram came, like the Old Testament was written before Jesus came, yet this Old Testament also talked about the Word. They were written in different languages. Some were written in Sanskrit, some were written in Hindi, some were written in Urdu, some were written in English, and some were written in many other languages. But they all talk about the Word.
Now one thing that interests me particularly is this Word and what is this word? Now, I have realized it,
but other people are not understanding what this Word which is common to all actually is. Though we believe in Jesus or Ram or Krishna or Mohammed, whoever we believe in, we have to believe in one God. So who is this God that we have to ultimately believe in; He is our ultimatum; our goal; He is our all. Who is this God? This human beings think ourselves big and proud because we have invented a 747, but if there are air pockets it might crash. You can put millions and millions and billions of dollars into one jet and if there is no air, it cannot fly. You have got the seventh fleet, but if the sea water soaks up it can't go anywhere. We have got cannons but if the iron melts down they cannot fire. So actually, ultimately, everything is based on nature. Though we think we have produced so many artificial things, actually they are all based on nature.
We have got generators, but if the air finishes or if the diesel finishes, there is going to be no generator which can produce electricity for us. In India, electricity is produced by water running through big, big things and making the whole thing rotate. Now if the water soaks up, how will this machine run? We think ourselves so proud to have invented this thing, but actually what we have invented is nothing, because just like a mad person does, we took some things from different places and put them together. There is one mad boy in our ashram in Delhi and he goes all round the ashram. From some place he collects his pens and from another place he collects his papers and from other places he col-lects so many things, and man has done the same, and he is crazy because it's not going to give him anything. Those pens don't write. In the same way man is also so crazy that he has invented the bomb and doesn't know that he also will be a victim of his bomb. See? Suppose the Americans have produced so many bombs, they think they will destroy Russia. Russia thinks they will destroy America. China thinks they will destroy India. India thinks hey will destroy China. But all of th m are being destroyed. These are the reasons why we know this is how t e world is going to end. We simply can't help it and that's the way a mad an acts. He knows it is wrong for hi but he can't help it. If he is going to smash his hand or bite his hand, he nows it is going to pain him. He kno s this is a painful thing and he shouldn't do it, but he just can't help it, he is out of control, he is out of his mind. In the same way, man knows all these things are going to destroy him, they are not going to do anything good, they are going to destroy. So many beautiful islands were simply destroyed because there were so many bomb tests. So much pollution is happening also. We feel very happy to produce things, but what the results of those things are, we simply don't understand. I am not a political leader to be talking about all these things, but there are things that are going to protect man. If a man is walking somewhere and he has got no clothes and it is snowing, he is going to be dead. Actually, what he is internally is a flame, an internal flame. But with no clothes the eternal flame can't work, because that internal flame, that soul of ours, works inside the body and makes the body function. No soul, no body. No body, the soul is still there but how is it going to function? If we want to do some good work, we need to protect our body. That's why a general or a major or a colonel is always protected from going in the front during the war. Otherwise he could just go in first and be shot. But he always stays behind, protects himself and gives orders. Why should he protect himself? So that he can stay longer, be more experienced and give better directions.
So now a time has come when everything is coming before us. Strange things we never knew of, strange diseases, strange things going on, and man has come to this stage now, finally, where he has started experiencing this Knowledge. He is doing this because he is realizing something. Scientists, when they took the atom, the smallest particle, and broke it, light and energy came out. What is this energy? So now scientists have started asking what is this energy, what actually is this thing that is making every-
thing vibrate. Doctors think themselves so good, but heart attacks are out of their control. They are working day and night to protect people from them, and day and night thousands and thousands of people are being killed by them. So what is it? You see, everyone has got a different role to play in the world. Saints have got a role, scientists have got a different role. Doctors have got a role, engineers have got a different role. Presidents have got a role, Prime Ministers have got a different role. A saint has got to play his role around the world. A president is not international, but a saint is. Just like in England there was. Shakespeare, there was one Indian writer who was like Shakespeare and his name was Kalidas. He was completely uneducated and he wrote so many beautiful things. He said, "A king can only be praised in his own country, but a saint can be praised everywhere he goes." The powers of a prime minister or a president or a king are limited, but the saint has got a power that is unlimited, and that is the power of the Knowledge. If you go to India and walk into my school, in each classroom there is a picture of Jesus Christ. Why not a picture of Ram? It is because Jesus is internationally respected. I have seen many places here in the West that have pictures of Ram. They are not Hindus, but they have pictures of Him, because He was a saint and they respect His Knowledge, if not His body. But what is He? He is not body, He is energy, He is soul, He is that perfect energy that He gives you.
So now what we have to understand is that there are two levels. One is a recognized level, one is an unrecognized level. One level is that which knows this Knowledge. He who is on this level understands everything, everything is clear for him. The other level is the level of ignorance. If there are two cars and one has got headlights on it and one hasn't got headlights, as long as there is daylight, there will be nothing wrong with either of the cars, but as soon as it becomes dark only one car will be able to work. Which car? Only that car which has got headlights on it is going to do any work at night. This can go around at night and that's that. As long as a person is rich and young and has something of his own to do, he is happy, he is O.K. But one day darkness is going to come and only those people who have got this light will be able to make their way through this world. Other people will just have to park and wait for twelve hours. Do you see?
When I was coming from Bombay to Delhi – there was a Mercedes that was presented by premies and I was bringing it from Bombay to Delhi – there was this whole convoy of cars because many Indian cars are produced in Bombay. The whole convoy of
cars was coming along and none of them had headlights because they had not been fitted, they were in the boot. So they all had to wait the whole night on the roadside. But we just drove on because we had headlights, and they just had to park their cars. They could go when it was daylight. So, we were self-sufficient and could go at night-time as well as day-time. Now, if a man is like that, if a man has got headlights, if he has got this Knowledge, if he has got this light, he can go anywhere in darkness and in light. He can go everywhere. If your car is an ordinary car you can take it some place and another place you can't take it. You can't take it on rocks, for instance, but a jeep with a four wheel drive – you can take it anywhere. If ordinary cars get stuck in mud and all four tyres start sinking, then you have got this hook which the driver can take and hook onto a tree or something and then start the motor and the car comes out of the mud. So this is the precise thing, we should be like a car which is so self-sufficient that you just press a button, it lifts up and goes anywhere, under water, anywhere. And if you realize this Knowledge you can be self-sufficient. We can bear any hardship. When a hardship comes to another man, it just blows him to pieces. And he can't face that. Why is this Knowledge required by the whole world? Because everyone is blowing out on these problems. A man starts a business and he should be happy because he has started a business. But he is not, because he doesn't know whether this business is going to work out in the next week or not. Many things are going on. Even if you drive a new car you can have problems. When I was going from New York to England, I sat in a Jumbo which had just been taken out from where it was manufactured. It came to New York and this was the first flight it had to do, from New York to England. And I was sitting in it and it went on the runway, then stopped and turned round and came back and parked. I asked, "What's the matter? " They said the radio doesn't work. New plane, they spend billions and billions of dollars, and the radio doesn't work! So, no matter how much wealth you have, until you are in the perfect vibration you are not going to be happy anyway.
If you want to fly, say up to one thousand feet, and the mountains there are seven thousand feet, you cannot fly securely over them, can you? When you crash into one of them you can't fly any more. But our Lord, our God, is one vibration. It is flowing infinitely. It is endless, it is perfect. Our vibrations are imperfect and they are flowing at a very low frequency. Unless someone gives us extra power to lead us up to the higher frequency where we can run smoothly, we cannot be at the infinite stage. But once we are at the infinite stage that's the principle that Jesus talks about; "You shall not perish, you shall not die, you shall not finish, you will go into the infinite frequency, you will be one with God." That's the way you get to be one with God. There is this frequency and there is no duality. Because as long as there is duality in this world there can be no peace. Duality just cannot bring about peace. Simple thing! In India, there was this problem, the English and Hindi problem. And part of this is because some of the students don't want to study so they just boom about thinking all these things. So this part of the college said, "O.K, We want a vacation, so what should we do ? We should go on strike. And what is the reason we should go on strike for? " They couldn't find a fault in the school so what they did is, they told the other part of the school, "We will strike against you.You say you want English, we will say we want Hindi. We will both fight, we won't do anything, we will just say you want English and we want Hindi. And that's what we'll do." And in Debra Dun, where my residence is, this boy said, "O.K, English, Hindi, English, Hindi", and a fight started. And you know what they started doing? They used to sit on the roadside and hold a bucket of pebbles, hard rocks, and any car with an Englisf number plate, they just threw the at it. They just broke all the mirrors. And one day there was a boy from one group and they were both friends. One was sitting in the corner drinking his tea and the other was writing something. And on this one's pen was a name written in English and the other boy said, "Rub it out," and he didn't so he took his knife and stabbed him right there.
But the brigadier was there, he is a very good man, and what he did, in six hours he spread out all his military all over Dehra Dun and he told them that if they see anyone with pebbles, they must just shoot them down. Nothing else, just shoot them down. Immediately there were no students on the roadside! Nothing happened. But still there is duality. Russia is one nation and America is another nation, and then there are other nations. If all the nations are separated, then there must be something separating them. One must be here, one must be here and one must be here. But they are all in one world, they are all on one globe. There are no different globes. You don't take a different globe for Africa, a different globe for America. You take one globe for the whole world because the world is one. But because we don't
realize it there is the idea of duality in us. That's why there is so much unpeace going on. My point is this. You are not the president of nations, neither are you the generals of nations. I'm just talking to you, explaining the situation. If you give water to the root it will automatically go to the leaves. If I tell something to the people, it will automatically go to the presidents.
So now, understand what is the perfect Knowledge, and those people who have understood it, meditate on it. You must understand it more, because when you get food you don't just say, "O.K, I've got it, why should I eat it? " Getting it is not your point, eating it is your point. You get it then you eat it. If you get it and don't eat it, no difference. You got this Knowledge, meditate on it. And see how it helps you, how it elevates you, how it powers you to go up, to spread upwards. There is going to be a big programme on the 6th, so come there, you will be able to hear some more. And after this Bal Bhagwan Ji is going to Europe, I am going to Japan and there will be mahatmas who will give you satsang. So try to understand them. Bal Bhagwan Ji is not going to return. He is going or to India to arrange everything for the November programme. So now those people who have realized this Knowledge, meditate, and those who haven't try to realize it. It's an international thing. It's something internal. If rain comes, or maybe I jump into a pool, I get wet but not the Knowledge. If I go into the sun, I feel hot but not the Knowledge. If I come through customs I am checked but not the Knowledge. Hindus have taken the Knowledge, Christians have taken it, anyone can take it. It's like water and everyone can drink water. there is no problem drinking water. In the same way this Knowledge. Premies who meditate on it will feel how beautiful it is. Now, I don't have to do many things, so if you have got any sensible questions, ask.
My Lord, you have given me so much grace but I still feel wretched. Can I have more?
Hum! Some can be given, but some you will have to develop for yourself. When you put four by four into your car, power comes, but more power is given by the accelerator. Press it and more power comes. You have been given one power. Meditate and you will be uplifted. Yes?
Guru Maharaj Ji, people I talk to who are not premies think that you're just trying to get your disciples' money and they think all you care about is big cars. I try so hard to explain to them but I don't know the best way.
You must tell them that Maharaj Ji's Knowledge does not lie in His big cars and does not lie in His television. It lies within Him and it lies within you. Whatever Maharaj Ji does, what has that to do with you? You want to receive Knowledge. If some man serves you coffee and he walks with his head down and his feet up you don't say, "I am not going to drink that coffee because he's walking in that way; you drink the coffee.
You don't drink the man, you drink the coffee. If they are going to get me, then they must have a place where they are going to keep the bulky car. I haven't got a bulky car actually, this is a rented car. And if they are going to get my Knowledge, that's within them. Just try to explain to them.
Is yours the only way?
I don't say that. I know.
See, you must realize that there is only one way, there is only one way to God. God is one, He has got one address, not two or three or four or five addresses. When you say Allah in Urdu, Bhagwan in Hindi, God in English, you are indicating one power not three powers. So to realize God, there is only one way. You can look at these bulbs from all different sides because they are stationary things. But God is not stationary, He is everywhere. Under-
stand? So the main thing is, there is only one way to see God because God is one and you see Him through the Third Eye and the Third Eye is one. You see? You know that Jesus said when the eye will be one … something like that, when the eye will be single. Why should it be single, why not two? Because God is one and to look at Him is one thing. One form. With these two eyes I can look at much more area and my concentration does not go to one thing, it goes to different things. But when my eye will be single I can only be concentrating on one God, not two or three Gods and not reflections of God but one who is the main one, who is the energy, understand? So realize it. It's not a question of, "Oh, if I take this Knowledge, what will happen? " No, I am very practical. I don't go into many scriptures, but I take a dish, I put three types of fruit in it, two are artificial and one is real, and I give it to you and say, "O.K, tell me which one is the real fruit." Now it's not such a thing where you bring your astrological charts and start calcu-lating which degree one fruit is kept in and which degree another fruit is kept in so you can tell which is real and which is artificial. What is the practical thing? You eat it. You understand? When kings in the ancient days used to be sus- picious about being poisoned, they did not take a big old junky thing,and try to experiment with the poison. No, what they used to do is, they used to get a dog and give him some food to eat, so if there was poison in it he would die, and if not he wouldn't die. This Knowledge is here. It's with-in you. Other gurus are not disappear- ing from the world. They are there, so you take this Knowledge and take their knowledge and see what is the real Knowledge. Then you will be able to know for sure.
Guru Maharaj Ji, I had a lot of doubts and a lot of people I know still have the same doubts about the strictness of the ashram. I would like to know what to say to them about why this has to be. They feel you're on a control trip.
Now you see, God is the controller, it is His control trip. Why do you only see with your eyes, why not with your mouth or with your nose? Why only with eyes? You talk about it being a control trip, then why do you only see with your eyes and not with your mouth? Why? Because that's the way things are, and that's the way things are going to be, understand? A man who sees through his mouth, you are not going to call him a man, you are going to call him a monster! A man must see through his eyes, that's the way it must be. Ashram has to be ashram and an ashram is not a motel. An ashram is an ashram and an ashram has got something of soul in it. You don't go into a church and just start sleeping there and drinking your coffee there. You don't do that, do you? A church is a church, a temple is a temple, you are strict about doing certain things there. Understand? You go to church, you pray, you meditate, you read something, you understand something, and you become more spiritual, right? Why should there be so much strictness? We are the children of God and this is the house of God, that's why there should be so much strictness. That's the way it has to be, that's why.
What is confusing, though is that some of the ashram people say the whole world should be like the ashram.
If the whole world can be like that, it will be fantastic! There is so much desperation around the world. I read advertisements encouraging people to smoke. And there is an ashram regulation saying, "Do not smoke", so if that happens all the way round the world, it will be fantastic. No drugs, nothing like that. Everyone neat and clean and active. It will be fantastic!
What about celibacy?
Well, this a question about something that has gone beyond the bounds where it should be. It should be more controlled. Anything else? Yes?
Can this Knowledge be given to mentally retarded people?
The question is only of understanding. God has created all things and all things must be utilized. God has created different types of nature and all the natures must be utilized. God has created intellect and it must be utilized for the good. God has created anger and it must be utilized for the good, because if someone comes to you and tries to kill you, you've got to tell him not to do it and you must be angry with him. If someone does something bad, if someone kicks a holy book and you don't get angry with him, the next time he is going to kick it again, right? A little bit of anger, a little bit of everything makes a beautiful combination. A little bit of intellect and a little bit of understanding that what we require is this Knowledge. And everyone who is a man, and who understands that he requires the Knowledge, can by all means receive it. Yes?
How does God create?
You must go into his factory, you must go to God and ask Him, "How do you create? " See, who is God? God is not a man. If God is a man He is an individual. This man here is an individual, right? But he cannot create himself into different forms, right? So God is not like him, God is almighty. That's why I say God is beyond intellect. Understand this. If God is God, how does He create all this? God has got no hands, so how does He do it? God is omnipotent, right? Man feels himself to be very intelligent but if one thing comes that he doesn't understand he just blows out on it! If a flying saucer comes it just blows him out because he doesn't know what it is. This is the thing that blows man out. He understands that God has got no hands, that God is energy and that God is omnipotent. But how can He be omnipotent if He has got no hands, how can He create so many things? If you go to a wax museum where they produce these wax statues, you'll see they are creating things just like human beings! So, if God has got no hands how does He create all this? He has got a machine, and this is how He creates! But to understand all this is beyond intellect, you must be right in that frequency, understand? If a man is standing outside, he doesn't know what is on top of the roof, does he? Why not? Because his eyes are not at that level. When his eyes are at that level he'll be able to see, right? In the same way, a man is not at that level where he can see what God is doing, but when he will be at that level, then he will be able to know. Yes?
What is the cause of individuality or personality? You are a realized person, you have realized this Knowledge, your Brother also has realized this Knowledge, and your Mother and your other Brothers have also realized. You are all souls from the same energy, so you are the same thing, yet we can all recognize you as being different and having different roles.
You know this pretty song that premies have made, "We are one in the spirit", humm? That gives the answer to the question. Different bodies, one in the spirit. If the cars are manufactured, right, all ten might have different things in them. Maybe one car is custom made and has air-conditioning. Maybe they are Plymouth Chryslers. One car has got air-conditioning, and one car has got no air-conditioning, but they have all got V-8 engines, right? An engineer knows that there is no difference between these cars, but another man doesn't know. Understand? There are two ways of looking at a thing:
of a thing. If you look into a thing you will see that it is the same. Look outside, and he is Mahatma Gurucharnanand, he Bihari Singh, he is Mahatma Ashokanand and so on. But look into him, understand who Mahatma Gurucharnanand is. His soul does not own a name. One thing is important and this is the soul. One who looks into the soul understands.,
Is there a purpose, then, for different talents? Like some cars have different equipment; some are little compacts and some are big luxury cars.
No, I'm talking about one series of cars, say the Mercedes 220. Now, they have all got one four-cylinder engine, right? A Mercedes 220 with power steering and a Mercedes 220 without power steering both have the same engine. A Mercedes 220 with air-conditioning and a Mercedes 220 without air-conditioning both have the same engine. It will not make any difference. An engineer knows there is no real difference between 220's, but someone who is not an engineer will say, "Oh yes, there is a difference. This car has got air-conditioning and that other car hasn't!" Do you understand? But if you are at the high frequency where everything is on the infinite level from which everything has been moulded into a different shape, then duality does not exist. How did duality actually start? I must explain it to you, it is very interesting. Man produced a language, he made a language, right? And then he understood, "I am man, he is man, everybody is man." He understood "I", "me", "you". Then he started producing things and then he became selective. This belongs to me, this belongs to you. This was the beginning of ego, ego is the beginning of duality, duality is the beginning of individuality and this is what leads to fighting. This became more strong, I, you, me, he, and his, all that, and now it has moulded into such a shape that even if you will get one single cent out of it you will say that this is mine! One single cent – this is mine! So this is the actual beginning of duality, of individual things. We are all so many different shapes but we have got one spirit, we all function in one way. He has got a moustache, Mahatma Ji hasn't got a moustache. He breathes, Mahatma Ji breathes. Right? They both take breath. What is the shape of his breath? Nothing different, right? In the same way, we all have different shapes but are one thing. One thing vibrates and that is why we are all human. And if you realize it more, then you can understand it more, looking into a thing and looking at the outside of a thing. If you look into a thing you will see that it is the same. Look outside, and he is Mahatma Gurucharnanand, he is Bihari Singh, he is Mahatma Ashokanand and so on. But look into him, understand who Mahatma Gurucharnanand is. His soul does not own a name. One thing is important and that is the soul. One who looks into the soul understands.
Since meditation is so very important, my Lord, could you please speak about it?
Well, meditation is something really practical, and speaking is speaking. This is an internal thing. When you practise something daily … have you seen a baby when the parents start teaching the baby how to walk, the first day he walks, the baby gets hurt, he doesn't know how to do it right. The next day maybe he doesn't get so hurt, he is learning a little bit. On the third day you still have to catch his hand though he knows a bit more, and on the fifth day a bit more. After some time he starts running, he runs like anything and eventually he reaches the stage where he is perfect, right? In the same way, maybe on the first day you don't get anything, the next day maybe just a little bit, next day a little bit more, the fourth day a bit more and so on and so on, and then you reach the final stage. And then the final stage comes where you get taken up into that one perfect altitude. See, when an aeroplane is cruising, you don't know whether it is cruising or not, it just reaches its own altitude and stays at that altitude. That's the meditation, that is gaining something. You meditate and the more you meditate the higher you get and then you join that frequency where you become infinite. Understand this. This is the whole thing about meditation. Meditation is actually concentrating on something. Real concentration is meditation, so what to concentrate upon? There is only one thing that we can concentrate on, only one thing which is the most interesting thing.
I remember one boy who came to me, in America I think it was. Yes, in America. And he had taken to much acid, so much LSD, and so many
other things, that he asked me, "Have you taken LSD?" and I said, "No" and then he said, "How can you know that LSD's experience is not so big as the Knowledge experience?" I said, "If I walk into a car company and I say, 'Give me a Mercedes 600', and another man comes along who has got a 280 and asks me, 'How do you know a 280 is smaller than a 600?' and I say, 'Yours is 280 and mine is 600, so naturally 600 is bigger.' Natural sense, common sense. That's all it is. Right?" It's just common sense. It just comes to me, this is how I explain that Knowledge you cannot limit. My Knowledge is so big it hasn't even got a name. So big is it. It is infinitely bigger than LSD. LSD is just a small tablet, I have such a big Knowledge, infinite Knowledge. And so then he understood how this Knowledge, is much bigger than LSD. If you realise it you will be able to understand it perfectly. Once you have reached the stage of perfection, this is a very beautiful stage. It is really just so wonderful if you join that highest frequency, so beautiful because then you have got one vibration. Right now ten thousand different things are working on you at one time, and you really get messed up, but then only one thing works on you and it really purifies you, it really gives you the blessed experience. It is such a far out thing. After we receive Knowledge we must meditate, and have devotion and do service. Is there any other question?
How should we give satsang, Guru Maharaj Ji? Should we give different kinds of satsang to different people?
Yes, there is a style in giving sat-sang and some people are not familiar with it. If I give satsang to premies, right, and then I go to my school and I give satsang to my teachers, I don't say, "Dear premies, this and that," do I? I say, "Dear teachers," right? Of course. Now there is one theme that I tell them, and there is a different theme that I tell premies. What I do with them is I ask them questions, I don't give them answers, I ask them questions. "What is the highest point in your life, eh? " Questions like this. But I don't ask premies, "What is the highest point in your life?" They will say, "Yes, I know that." When I am with my teachers I ask them, and when they can't answer or they give the wrong answer, then I tell them. If he says such and such a thing, then I tell him, "No, this is it." So it is a different style. When I meet my friend, I'll tell him in a different way; and if I meet my relatives, I'll tell them in a different way; and when I meet different people, I'll tell them in a different way. Many times it happens that I'm sitting in a plane and a man walks up to me and says, "May I ask you a question?" I say, "Go ahead," and I don't know who this man is, because it's the first time I'm seeing him, right? And we both start talking. I don't talk to him too much, mostly he talks to me and I am understanding what type of man he is, because some types of people are very strange. And you want to know what kind of person they are, and they'll want to talk, so you let them talk. And what do I do? I sit quietly and let them talk and talk and talk. And then they stop, and then I'll tell them something. Everybody is ready for the introduction, but in a different style. Yes?
Could you explain the nature of grace?
Common sense is uncommon. What do you think grace is?
I'm not sure, that's why I ask you.
But sure, you know what grace is. Haven't you gone through high school? Surely you have read this word in your dictionary or somewhere, so you've known what the meaning is.
Everything you talk about is very logical, but grace is something illogical.
Everything I talk about is logical, and grace is logical. So what is grace? Have you heard about power and extra power? Have you heard about tyres, and radial tyres? Have you heard about steering, and power steering? What's the difference between steering and power steering, mm? Well, let's leave that and come to a practical example. If my car gets stuck in sand, and all four wheels go down, first of all, if I am in the fourth gear, I put it into third, right? And then into second, and then into first. That's my effort, it doesn't work. Then I put it into reverse. That's my effort too, right, and it doesn't work.
All my efforts don't work. Then I take this hook, I hook the car onto a tree and try to roll it out. But it doesn't work, and that's my effort again, and it doesn't work. Then I tell someone to bring a crane, that's not my effort, I just tell him to bring the crane. He brings the crane, picks up the car, pulls it out, and that's his effort. And that's called grace. So if we try to do meditation, it doesn't work out, try to do some more, it doesn't work out, try to do some more, it doesn't work out, try to do some more, it doesn't work out, ask the mahatmas, it doesn't work out, get a Knowledge review, it doesn't work out. Then comes the grace, pushes it away, throws it out, out of the sand. Yes?
I have been told that if you are meditating on the Word then you do no wrong actions, but it seems to me that sometimes people might be meditating on the Word, and they can still do wrong actions.
No, no. See, this can't be. If there are two people, both driving cars, one gets in an accident, and one doesn't. They are both drivers, why should one have an accident and not the other? They are both drivers. Why? Because one is not trained, and one is perfectly trained. That man who is perfectly trained, who is just perfect in meditation, does not do a wrong action. But there is a limit; to err is human. This is the same for all of them, otherwise they all become gods. This is the difference between gods and human beings. Human man has to perform some errors, but a man who is in this Knowledge does not perform so many errors, or does not perform such an error that will become a really huge thing, you understand? But the man who does not have this Knowledge might perform a really huge error. That's the point. That's the whole thing. Who told you that a man who has this Knowledge does not perform a wrong action?
I don't remember, just somebody said that if you are meditating on the Word, then you can't perform a wrong action, that everything you do will be perfect.
Yes, it can be perfect, but only if you go on to that highest frequency. Then it's perfect. Yes?
For whom do you recommend ashram life?
For whom? Everybody, of course. For human beings, not chimpanzees. But first they must have no obligations, and they must want to dedicate their whole life.
Guru Maharaj Ji, will everybody realise this Knowledge, whether they live in ashrams or not?
Sure. I don't live in an ashram, do I? I was born in an ashram, and now I live in an ashram, but most of the time when I was studying, when I was doing my education, I wasn't in ashram, I was just in a residence. And I know this Knowledge, I have realised this Knowledge. I give it to people. Yes?
My Lord, sometimes I get confused about service, and how to do service.
Sometimes I also get confused about why Americans should be so confused. Only Americans. I can't understand this. Maybe they are too high powered, maybe their motor rotates at a higher speed. Now what do you get confused about?
I get confused about which service I should be doing as a devotee.
Common sense is uncommon. Now just what do you think is appropriate for you to do? Now if you want to drive a plane, and you don't know how to drive a plane, then that won't be useful service for you. You must know what to do. If you know how to work as a housemother in an ashram, then work as a housemother. If you don't want to stay in an ashram, then do satsang. Right? Common sense is uncommon. Yes?
Guru Maharaj Ji, can you tell us something about the nature of nectar, why it's there, and why it comes?
Hmm, why? Can you answer me what's 'why'?
Well, why does it come sooner in some people than in others?
The nectar is there and the nectar flows, right? And why does it flow? Stop it. If it's wrong, stop it flowing. If it's O.K. then don't ask the 'why?' If your farm needs water and water comes into your farm, why say, "Why is water coming into my farm?" You don't say 'why?' do you? Now if your whole land doesn't need water, and water comes in, then you say 'why?' You say, "Why is water coming?" Then you can stop the water. If you don't like the nectar, stop it. If you like it, go ahead, there is no question of 'why?' What do you mean 'why?' Why?' is a question that obligates something. Why were you driving over speed? 'Why?' It means you shouldn't do that, and you were doing it. Understand? Why are you wearing glasses? You shouldn't be wearing glasses, and you are wearing glasses. See, my eyes are weak, that's why I am wearing glasses. Why are the wheels rotating? Because they should rotate. Why must you do something? Why? Now if the world was being created, and God was just recently creating you and me, and you were asking, "God, why are you putting nectar into man?" There is no need for that question. It has already been put, so there is no sense in asking the question 'why?' You can put it no doubt, everyone is free to have any question he wants in his brain, but 'why?' is not a sensible question. It doesn't make any sense. Because 'why?' is not going to do anything, it is not going to help anything. Why is it there? It is there because you should have it. Understand? God is not crazy. God has got something about Him. He is giving it to yo be-cause He knows you need it. That' why. In South Africa I was driving, and the radio was on, and this man was commentating, and he said, "This world has got so many questions to it, and where did yesterday go?" Where
did yesterday go? And we just laughed and laughed and laughed. Where did yesterday go? And he said, "It disappeared, where did it go?" Very intelligent question. You see, some people gamble. They gamble because they want to, they have got this interest and they gamble. Some people play cards, some people do one thing and some people do something else. But there are some people who can't do anything, so what do they do? They ask 'why?' "Where did yesterday go?" They ask and ask and ask, but they'll never find out out anything. Any more questions?
Guru Maharaj Ji, if the ultimate in devotion is to form complete detachment from worldly things, and to devote our lives to doing service or you, should we just avoid all attachments, and not make them, attachments like husbands and wives and children?
No you shouldn't. Have you any sense in you? Can't you think anything, don't you have a brain in you? What do all these things mean? What does complete detachment mean? Do you know what is a sannyasi? Do you know what is a sannyasi? It is one who has given away everything. There is a very good story about this king, and this king one day thought that this other king is going to invade e my kingdom. He is going to come, and he's going to slaughter so many thousands and thousands of people. So much slaughter is going to take place unnecessarily, he thought. So he just decided to become a sannyasi, and he said, "O.K. I am going to leave everything and go into the jungle." So one day this king went into the jungle, see. But the queen knew what was happening, and she knew that the other king was going to come and invade the whole country. So what did she do? She just changed herself, and went into the jungle dressed as a king, and said, "O.K. what are you doing?" He was her husband, but the king never knew, "This is my wife", and she did not act as if, "This is my husband." She just acted like a king. So she said, "O.K. what are you doing?" He said, "O.K. I am a sannyasi, and I have left everything." "Have you?" she said. Now he had a little bucket type of thing, and she said, "To whom does this belong?" and he said, "To me." And she said, "Well if you are a sannyasi, if you have left everything, then why do you have this thing?" He said, "You are right," and he threw it away. Then she said, "To whom does this hut belong?" He said, "To me." She said, "If you are a sannyasi, and you have left everything, then why have you a hut?" And he said, "Yes", and he just burned it down. "Ultimately", she said to him, "to whom does this body belong?" and he said, "To me." And she said, "if you are a sannyasi, if you have left everything, then why do you have this body?" And he became confused. Then she explained, "No, what is a real sannyasi, what is real detachment is detachment from your mind, is detachment from your desires. You need certain things. You have to get them even if you go into the Himalayas, or into the Alps to meditate, you will have to have certain things. Detachment is not giving up everything."
When Buddha was fasting and meditating, His body was so thin there was just nothing left, He looked like a few bones. Now Indra, the God of heaven, sent a girl down to play some music for Him, to disturb Him in His meditation, because Buddha was getting so high, He was shaking the whole thing up there. And this girl actually knew why Indra sent her, to disturb Buddha from His meditation, and she was a little afraid of Him. "If I disturb Him," she thought, "He might curse me." So what she did was to start playing a beautiful melody, a melody that said, "Don't tighten the strings of your sitar too much, because they might break. Don't loosen them so much, because they will not play. Tune them so that they might vibrate in perfect tune." And this shook Buddha's brain, and then He went out and that's when He met Sujata who gave Him Knowledge, and then He started preaching. Buddha, the only saint from the east who has done some prachar. Rama and Krishna came but They didn't do any prachar, They didn't spread this Word to anyone. Even though They were both kings. So this is the main thing you see, what detachment is required is detachment from desires. Desires are the things that make us so unhappy. We have got infinite desires in us. One desire finishes, and another
desire comes, that desire finishes and immediately another desire comes. So that thing which just produces more desires should be the thing to be detached from. Understand?
But Guru Maharaj Ji, if we all come to this place of unity, won't there also be a unity of desires?
But you have unity of desires now,. don't you? Don't you have one common desire to drink water when you feel thirsty? The whole world is disunited. If you feel thirsty, you drink water. If you feel hungry, you eat something. Why? You shouldn't do that because you are disunited. Americans and Vietnamese haven't got good relations, they are not united together. Now, the Vietnamese eat food when they are hungry, so Americans shouldn't eat food when they are hungry, or if Americans eat food when they are hungry, then the Vietnamese shouldn't. No, it is a common thing. Common desires have got to be there, see? When we all get united, then there will be no egos troubling us. No slaughtering people. Have you understood? You see, I have come now and this is going to happen. What is good for us is going to happen.
Guru Maharaj Ji, since there is one God for all, when we finally unite and become one with God, then is there a higher power who controls all of us, or is there just one that we are united to?
See there are no I's and you's and me's and he's in that place. There are rivers going into the ocean, right? There is a Ganges river, it flows into the ocean. When it goes into the ocean, where is the river? Has it dis appeared? No, it has become part of the ocean. When we get away, when we become one with God, then we don't have any individuality, because originally we didn't have any individuality, right? And when we become one with God then again we don't have any individuality. That's the whole thing, you understand?
Guru Maharaj Ji, to do service in the ashram, I have been told that you must have short hair and wear a shirt and tie and look very clean. Now many long-haired people in America don't understand whether you want them to cut their hair, or whether the mahatmas want them to cut their hair, or whether other premies want them to cut their hair.
You think your hair is God?
Of course not.
Then what's the trouble in cutting it? It doesn't cause you any pain, does it?
Jesus Christ wore long hair and wierd clothes.
That's because there were no hair cutting machines at that time. Now there are. O.K. Now this is an interesting subject. Jesus had long hair and you want to become Jesus Christ, right? So grow your hair long, right? You have long hair and you are not Jesus, are you? You are not Jesus. Jesus was Jesus. Jesus was a high personality. Jesus was not judged by His hair, He was judged by His Knowledge, right?
Guru Maharaj Ji, as a middle-aged premie, I would like to compliment you on your stand, on the order you have put into the ashrams. After all, we have to deal with the people of the world, and if you are going to deal with only the young people, what about the older people who want to receive the Knowledge, who can't relate to the level of long hair and what not?
Yes, I understand that. Any more questions?
What happens to a person's karma when they receive the Knowledge?
It starts choking up. It starts finishing up, because when you realize the Knowledge you've got to go and be one with God, and if you had bad karma maybe you would have to go and become a donkey, right? According to your karma you would have to become a donkey. But according to this Knowledge, now you are going to go and be with God, because now you have this Knowledge, your karma of being a donkey, I want to abolish it, and instead you are going to go and be one with God, right?
What does it feel like to be Lord of the Universe?
No feeling, no feeling at all. One with the highest frequency. Yes?
Guru Maharaj Ji, you spoke earlier on, very scientifically, about grace and what it was, but what's the method for receiving that extra power?
When everything just feels down, you just lean down and automatically it comes and lifts you up. Or maybe you just ask for it.
If our father is a satisfied Catholic, or our friend is satisfied with transcendental meditation, should we try to give these people satsang?
No. There will come a time when they will ask you a question, and then when they ask that question, tell them, "If you are satisfied with your own meditation, if you are satisfied with your own religion, why do you ask a question? A man who is satisfied with his religion, who is satisfied with his meditation, doesn't ask a question. He should just sit and meditate and be really high." A man can't hide his error. I am satisfied, but if he is not satisfied, then somewhere his error will leak out.
Guru Maharaj Ji, what is the relationship between science and truth?
Science is searching for truth.
But how does the philosophy of science fit in with Knowledge?
Now the philosophy of the saints, nobody much believed on it, but then a scientific explanation came about energy, that energy is never created and never destroyed, and everyone has started believing in it. Understand? So science is nothing new. They have taken a thing and they are cutting it about, and God is in that thing. They took the atom and broke it apart, and energy came out of it. So this is the practical thing. This Knowledge is an internal practical thing, and science is an external practical thing. They mix together very well. Science gives us many examples. To make people understand this Knowledge there are many scientific examples. People ask me, "Why should we be low, when you are high?" and I say there is a scientific explanation for it. When something is high then it will always flow down
to something that is low. Yes?
Is liberation higher than devoted service to the Lord?
Well, it just means merging.
Fine. Being one with something and not coming back. What's devotion? From where did the word 'devotion' start? Just reverse the process. Devotion came from devote, devote came from devotee, devotee came from divine. The divine thing gives you something and you become a devotee, devotion starts and you become devotional. So now both things are before you and you can see the difference; liberation and devotion. Can you see the difference between the two? Liberation just one with something, no actions. Devotion – one with something, actions. See? When Rama came, Hanuman also came, and served Him. There was one time when Lord Rama was really pleased with Hanuman, and He asked him, "Hanuman, what do you want? I'll give you one thing, and whatever you want, I'll give it. If you want devotion, I'll give you devotion. If you want liberation, I'll give you liberation." Hanuman said, "What would I do with liberation? I don't want liberation, I want devotion, so that I can be Your devotee, so that I can have Your physical presence, so that I can have Your Darshan, so that I can do some service for You. What the hell would I do with this liberation? I'll just be there, I won't be seeing you, I won't be doing anything. I'll just be one with the frequency." So the Lord gave him devotion. I think that is enough for today.
Do Your Duty!
Satsang of Shri Bhole Ji School of Architecture, Paris 19th June, 1972
It is the grace of Guru Maharaj Ji on us that we have got this Knowledge. Before I give satsang, I will sing a bhajan.
(Bhole Ji sings "Apne hasti…")
Guru Maharaj Ji has given us this Holy Name. We must meditate on this Name because it is the only true Name in this world. Supposing we get this Knowledge and we do not meditate, it is of no use taking this Knowledge, because if you grow a tree and you do not put manure and water on it, the tree won't grow. It is no use to plant the tree if it does not grow. So if you want to eat the fruits of the plant, you will put manure on it and you will put water on it so that it grows, and then you can eat the fruits. So similarly with meditation. The more satsang you get the more meditation you do, then you will get the deliverance of this Name and then you will feel more happy, more cheerful in your life.
Lord Krishna gave this Holy Name to ore man only, Arjuna, but Guru Maharaj Ji is giving this Name to everybody. You must practise this Name, you must practise this meditation so that you don't forget the Name. If you do not do meditation, you will forget it because if you don't practise something you forget it. So the same way, if you do not meditate, you forget the Name, this Holy Name which Guru Maharaj Ji has given us.
Today there is fighting all over world because men don't have the true Name. If they had the true Name there would be no fighting between each other and there would be peace in this world. It is your duty to do satsang and bring more people to Guru Maharaj Ji so that they will realise this Knowledge. You will be doing a very great thing for the people if you give them satsang, then they will know the true Name that they are searching for. Then they will be able to come to Guru Maharaj Ji and they will get this true Name.
Today Guru Maharaj Ji has gone to Africa. There they have a problem between black and white people. Guru Maharaj Ji has gone to solve that problem. With this Name one fellow does not feel that he is separate because of the colour of his skin, but he realizes soul, which is the same in everyone. We are one in the true Name and those who realize this become friendly towards each other, they become brothers in this true Name.
No one on this earth can solve this problem, except Guru Maharaj Ji, because He alone can reveal the only true Name which can make all men feel in their hearts that they are brothers. We realize that what we are is the same thing because of the true Name that Guru Maharaj Ji gives. Only this Name can make all men equal. There is no other name which can do so.
So you see, we must feel great gratefulness for Guru Maharaj Ji who has given this true Name and whose grace is upon us. And so we must meditate because He has done His duty by giving us the Name, but if we do not meditate then it is our fault; we have not done our duty. So we must meditate so as to get the true Name's impression in our mind, then we will feel cheerfulness after our mind is fixed on the Name. So you go to many people and give them satsang and then bring them to the ashram, so that Bai Ji may give them Knowledge that they may also become your brothers in this Knowledge. They will, in their turn, do satsang to some others so that this Name will be spread among everybody in this world.