I don't think that Prem Rawat has ever publicly used the word 'apostasy'. It is a subject that he does not discuss though some of his followers and some of his organisations' web sites
have explained any public mention of it as being caused by inexplicable disgruntlement or mental sickness in the apostate. He was more forthright in the 1970's though he used terms like 'manmut' and his followers
spoke and sang of "Leaving the Lotus Feet." and "jumping off the boat" and "unlit matches." He spoke of apostates as rotting vegetables,
milk that's gone off, a corpse eating and apostasy as he very worst thing you can do, like commiting suicide, the pits, the backroom of hell and a sin. When speaking too the public he said
Rawat himself is an apostate as he was disowned, disinherited and deposed by his mother, elder brothers and the Mahatmas and administrators of Divine Light Mission India and forgotten by the millions of Indian followers he once claimed to have.
2nd May 1974
do meditation. Because meditation is important. You are surviving, you are alive here at this moment because of meditation. No other thing is making you alive now; only that meditation, only that Name, only that Holy Word, only
that vibration which is true is making you alive. Then why ignore it? Why leave it? Always do meditation; that is the damn important thing for your life. If you leave it, you cannot survive. You cannot
survive physically, and on none of the planets can you survive, because it is important. It is a communication between you and your Lord that you form. And this communication is very important for a devotee to organize, and
this can only be going very smoothly if you are regularly doing meditation.
Élan Vital, Summer 1978, Volume II, Issue 2 |
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2nd May 1974
But I think the premies who are not meditating, you know what they are doing? They're getting three tons of vegetables in their house and not eating it. You know what that means? When it'll start rotting, phew, it's going
to rot like a hell. I mean, if it was one vegetable, one teeny weeny vegetable, it would dry out somewhere in the closet, doesn't even matter. But if you had three truckloads of them, and they start rotting, man, you are
looking for some real trouble. And that's the way this Knowledge is. But this Knowledge, it's like you've got the vegetables of the whole universe with you. And if you don't meditate, can you imagine how it's going to
rot?
Golden Age, Thursday, June 8, 1974 |
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Cosmopolitan Hotel, Denver, Colorado, May 6 1974
Because if you do not meditate on this Knowledge, it's like it is there, it's gonna do you no no good. Like, I was giving that example the other day that, you know, you can have one truckload of vegetables, and you can have one pocketful of vegetables, and you can have one okra. And if that one okra rots in your house, it doesn't matter so much because you can just put it right down the drain.
But if you have three truckloads of that okra in your house, and they start rotting, you might as well forget it, because you won't be able to blow them down the sink. The sink will clog, and then there'll be more rotting going on.
And it's like, if it was a small small mantra, and of course it'll do you no good either - if there was a small small mantra which was of no good, was not able to give this mind peace, and it would rot if you would not meditate on it, that's okay.
But since you have received this Knowledge, I think the very foremost duty for you is to go and meditate.
Golden Age, No. 17, January 1975 |
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Pacific Guru Puja, Opera House, Sydney, Australia, October 19th, 1975
Let me advise you about something. If this is what you are going to end up doing anyway, I suggest that you just don't even meditate. You see, there is also one more problem. There are disadvantages to things as well as advantages. Of course, in Knowledge there are very few disadvantages and a lot more advantages, because the greatest advantage of them all is there, in this Knowledge. But there is a disadvantage too.
It's like, if you have milk, which is very good for you to drink, very nourishing, and very tasty - I personally don't like it, but that's what other people say - and if you don't drink it, boy, it tastes and it smells very, very bad after a little while. It becomes worse, and worse, and worse, and worse, and worse, till you just can't stand it anymore. That's the way this Knowledge is. It sits inside of you, it is there, you have understood that experience, and that thing that drove you to this Knowledge is striving harder, and harder, and harder, and harder within inside of you to have that experience, but you are not having that experience because you are not even meditating.
I tell you, some premies just leave, and say, "Okay, we call it all quits." Then after a year or so they come back, and boy, do they look in bad shape - in and out, both ways. Mind has become a lot stronger in that time. So beware of mind. It's a very, very tricky thing, and it can trick you any time, it can get you any time. It's a loaded gun, and it'll go off any time. So just keep on meditating, just keep on truckin'.
And It Is Divine, Volume III, Issue 4, Winter 1976 |
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DUO Headquarters in Denver, Colorado, December 1975
This is a fact. I am not about to go into this world and go "Kaboom" and let this whole world have Knowledge. I'm not about to go like this and say, "Okay, everybody has Knowledge". I'm not doing that. And you know that.
Otherwise, I would have done it a long time ago. No Perfect Master in this world did that, though they had the capacity to. If Jesus had the capacity to come back after He was dead, it wouldn't have been very hard for Him
to go like this, and everybody would have Knowledge. But He did not do that. Nobody has done that. And neither am I about to go and do it. The reason is because then you will be left without a service. And if you are left
without service, then it's like vegetables are very nice things, but when you leave them out in the open, they start to rot very fast. And when they start to rot very fast, it becomes very hard. There are bugs and insects
and flies all over the place.
Golden Age, No. 27, March 1976 |
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Munich, Germany on April 10, 1977
And it's just like, okay, mind and trips and so on and so forth. You can look at it any way you want; but to me, satsang, service, and meditation are food, you know? To keep me alive, when Guru Maharaj Ji is my life. So, if I leave Guru Maharaj Ji, and I keep on eating, then it's like a corpse trying to eat food: what would be the point?
But if my life, if I could stick to my life, then automatically those things will be provided. Because what I'm dealing with here, what I am trying to realize in my life, what I am trying to become one in my life with, is a far more superior person, and is far more superiority there; that omnipotent, omnipresent; and omniscient - so what is a piece of apple, you know? What is a piece of banana? What is this and what is that? And everything can manifest for me; it has, you know? And this is why I'm here. This is why my realization is where it is at, is because I've surrendered myself.
The Golden Age Number 39 |
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Kansas City, January 22, 1978
What's worse? Knowing the purpose of life and not fulfilling it is the worst thing, worst thing anybody can ever do. And yet, it's so beautiful that by Guru Maharaj Ji's Grace, he gives us that strength. By his Grace, he gives us that strength to carry on.
The Divine Times January/February 1978 |
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Memorial Day satsang, Malibu, California, May 28, 1978
But it's quite obvious that only by Knowledge -and then, not even that - only by Guru Maharaj Ji's Grace, can we really
understand who we really are, can we really have our true identity, can we really experience ourself, can we go beyond the barriers of right and wrong, can we go beyond the barrier of all
time, and cross all infinity and merge with what's finite. And that's only possible by Guru Maharaj Ji's Grace.
It's just like our love for our Guru Maharaj Ji can never, can never, cease to exist. If there is a definition ... Okay, this is a little harsh way to put it. But I'll put it: If there
is a definition to sin - if there is one - then it definitely applies to the place of ever leaving that Love, of ever forgetting that Love, of Guru Maharaj Ji.
Until then, again, keep doing satsang, service and meditation. And just flow with that experience. Because without that experience, we're
lifeless. With that experience, we become who we are. Not Joe Blow. Not Smith, not Kathy, not John, not this, not that. But we become who we really are. And if we forget who we really are, if
we let go of Guru Maharaj Ji and really forget who we really are in the true sense of the word, then that's almost like commiting suicide, that's almost like dying.
The Golden Age August 1978 Number 47 |
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Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 27h August, 1978
There is the experience that you have experienced in Knowledge. There is that experience you've experienced in service, in
meditation, in darshan.
And mind says. "But I promise you more than that." Mind has always promised us. but never given us anything.
Guru Maharaj Ji has not only promised us. but given us more than what he has promised. Always. Always.
And as that battle begins, the things get even more tense. And if that faith is not there, if that faith is not completely in
Guru Maharaj Ji, you're going to fall in so many fragments that you wouldn't be able to count them yourself. You will
run right out of count. Right out of it. You will go beyond zillions, billions, everything.
The Divine Times January/February 1978 |
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Hans Jayanti, Kissimmee, Florida, on the afternoon of Thursday 8th of November, 1979
You know what manmut means?
Manmut is what has been described as a devotee who is not a devotee, who has been sent beyond everything. A manmut is the worst. That's it. If there's the pits, then that's the pits. That's the end. That's the back room of hell. That's the hell of hell. And what manmut means is: the follower of mind. But before being a manmut, you have to be a devotee. First you have to be a devotee, follow Guru Maharaj Ji, and only then you can become a manmut. Because you leave Guru Maharaj Ji and start following your mind. And then you end up in the pits. That's it.
The Golden Age, May 1980, Number 56 |
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Holi Festival, Rome, Italy / June 25, 1980
I was standing there on the steps, listening to the song (Leaving Your Lotus Feet, Where Would I Go?). It's starting to become one of my favorites. I know it really has to be true
for me. My experience of Guru Maharaj Ji, my experience of Knowledge, has to be real for me. If it isn't real for me, then who am I kidding? What am I trying to do? What am I trying to accomplish?
Elan Vital, Fall 1980, Volume IV, Issue 3 |
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Rome, Italy 1st November, 1981
I have faith in my Guru Maharaj Ji because I have seen that that faith, that faith is the rope. If I let go of it I don't even know where the bottom is. It's gonna be an endless, endless, endless, endless, endless, endless,
endless, endless fall.
Rome 1/11/81 video |
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Festival Of Knowledge, Brussels 8th December 1989
What would happen, people are gonna think this is sacrilegious, ha, what would happen if you decided you don't want to? Go ahead, you’ll laugh, you'll cry, quote unquote you'll live a very normal life. You really will, you really will … there is greater agony, greater agony in sitting on top of the fence going should I, shouldn't I, should I, shouldn't I, much greater agony … People say "Well, you know, I've had Knowledge for eight years and nothing has happened." My suggestion is go, go, go in the bathroom, pull down your pants and see if you've got marks sitting on a fence and I guarantee you'll find 'em right across
Festival Of Knowledge Audio Tape trasncript |
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Prem Rawat's "Knowledge" has three parts: regularly listening to his speeches, doing voluntary work for organisations serving him or donating money and daily meditation correctly practicing the four techniques he recommends. The techniques are so simple it's hard to see how they could be practiced incorrectly. First technique ("Divine Light") involves sticking your thumb and middle finger on your eyeballs (NB: with eyes closed) and your index finger between your eyebrows. Second technique: ("Heavenly Music") poking your thumbs into your ears and listening. Third technique: ("Holy Name") thinking about your breathing (NB: continue to breathe). Fourth technique: ("Nectar") curling your tongue backwards and tasting. Rawat's father taught slightly different techniques but either way it's difficult to see how these could produce the benefits claimed for them especially as Rawat claims His Knowledge is the only method of attaining real happiness and love in this life.
